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Now that we've stuffed our faces with Mac n cheese, it's time to talk our shit about the real reasons for the season! Join us for this breakdown of some of our well known holidays and the realness that's often forgotten...
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Welcome back to the Blurred Spectrum Podcast. We are here to give you the final episode of 2021. Um, so yeah, some some some technological complications might have happened in the previous episode that were supposed to come out on Wednesday, but they ended up not coming out on Wednesday. My bad. But it's still an amazing episode. Check out the uh round robin that was uh uh rudely uh renamed by uh one of the members of our podcast. Uh that's you're welcome. You're welcome.
SPEAKER_12I like to think that I'm very colorful with my wording. Would you like to tell the people what I named it? I refuse. I'll tell them I named it Suchino Torture.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_07Rude.
SPEAKER_09Anyway, so for this particular episode, we are back again to give you something that I think most of you actually need. Since you know, either you didn't pay attention in class or you were taught all things that don't make sense.
SPEAKER_12Let's give you a little bit of the truth, huh? You say need, I immediately thought about money. Wow.
SPEAKER_09So we are here to give you a little bit of our holiday realness, as uh uh coined by uh Kaize Shinryu. Uh, we're here to tell you all of the, well, maybe not all of the things, but the things that you need to know about some of the holidays that you hold so dear. So before you get your your pumpkin spice, uh before you get your uh uh your uh pint uh down at the uh at the brewery, before you uh decide to celebrate some of your favorite days off of work, let us tell you a little bit about the reason why you're celebrating, or rather the reason why you're you you should be celebrating, because it's not really a celebration, it's actually a memorial. Sorry, Morbid. All right, so first let me introduce our panelists, starting with the doctor, the black moboy. And of course, once again, your moderator, Suchino Shogun. I am here today, not really to do much, uh, because uh morbidity really ain't my thing. Okay, Sayone. Uh so what we're gonna do is we're gonna go over and we're gonna name some of our individual holidays and give you a little bit of truth behind those uh individual things. Uh so let me see, let me see, let me see. Let's uh let's uh let's start with uh I think the doctor has an interesting one. Uh the doctor, what uh holiday do you have?
SPEAKER_00All right, cool. So for my holiday, it's something that relates to Halloween, but actually it was or kind of still is its own distinct holiday, but not really that well known. And this is called Mischief Night. So Mischief Night is on October 30th, the day before Halloween, typically in the US. And it's a little bit distinct, but it ties into some of the you know idea of like mischief and trick, you know, trickery or trickery around Halloween. Wherefore mischief night, it's meant to kind of the way you celebrate it is by you know kids and teenagers engaging in pranks. So this is really like the prankster holiday, where you know, kids will go out, they'll uh you know do minor or harmless pranks and so forth. And you know, oftentimes the adults will join in two, and it's supposed to be this really big uh bonding thing. And I actually celebrated this to an extent as a kid. Uh, I'm just doing like harmless pranks with friends and such. Um but one of the interesting things as far as its history is how it quickly became controversial in the US. Um, because you know, as you could probably imagine, you know, what starts is these harmless pranks, people take it a little too far out of hand. Then it got linked up with life vandalism and such.
SPEAKER_12And it got time not know how to act, but you give them a little bit of leeway.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Hey, you know, give an inch you take a mile, but uh I mean, and so and what up happening was um it really started to become fall out of favor more around the time of the like say 80s or so when the whole satanic panic thing like really ramped up. This idea that, oh, you know, these uh worshipers are out, you know, to put razor blades and candies on Halloween and whatnot. Well, vandalism got mixed up, got mixed up in that. So Mystic Night really fell out of favor then. And that's where it's kind of, I guess, got merged into Halloween, but it really lost its place as its own holiday, at least in um in a larger sense. But you know, overall though, like it's still celebrated in the US, in the UK, and some other areas, but definitely on a much smaller scale. Um, and it's something that, you know, it it can be a lot of fun. Um something you gotta keep in check. You know, you can only go so far, but um but yeah, like it's it's a unique part of you know, a lot of cultures that um really just doesn't isn't that well known. And it adds this nice kind of fun, mischievous dimension to Halloween.
SPEAKER_09From from my understanding, well, not really understanding, from what I've known or my experience, um, a lot of like high schools in different in certain states, and that's all I'm gonna say about that, uh, celebrate mischief night as a kind of expectation for like their seniors or their juniors. They like, you know, integrated into um uh yearly traditions amongst the different uh school years where you know the scene uh what is it? I think they like um they TP or they do some type of prank on the older kids or the older kids do something on the younger kids. So um now I I was not privy to that in um in in the county in the state that I live in. Um I didn't say it, people. Uh, but that is something that I have uh heard of in a variety of different states and and cities. So uh it's interesting to know that um one, I didn't know it was on October 30th. I I just thought they picked a night. Like I said, I thought it was like a high school thing, and each high school picked whatever they want to do. I didn't realize it was a October 30th. Um like the senior prank thing. Right, right. Like I just thought it was like a part of homecoming or part of, you know, some type of school-oriented thing. But to know that it was something bigger than that, that families and households and neighborhoods are actually doing, I didn't know that. Like I said, it didn't it didn't happen around my way. Uh let you go down to Miss Hattie's house and start TP and all of a sudden, Miss and yeah, she'll she'll she'll show you uh what you need to do with those 200 flushes. But anyway, uh no, that's amazing. Um anybody else uh experience mischief night?
SPEAKER_12Uh no. Um but I do have a question. So, like, what were some of the like what are what's like the spectrum of like the spectrum? Um what's the uh what's uh like the spectrum of like pranks and stuff? Because like you said you did it when you were younger. So like I'm thinking, okay, well, but what were those pranks like versus like people who clearly took it out, took it like all the way past 100, and it was like, you know what, maybe we should put a stop to this. So so what what's the dichotomy there between those extremes? Or what's two extremes?
SPEAKER_00So like when we did it, it was mostly stuff like, oh, you know, a whoopee cushion in the chair on a classroom or something like that. Like that was one we did a lot of uh we didn't TP anyone. Like I think that's more middle of the road, but um, I know like as far as some of the ones that really got kind of like got scrutinized or tore things down like was more actual vandalism. So like spray painting cars and shit, or you know, um, yeah, like it's things like that. So, or um what was it? Uh like involving fires. That was oh arson. I mean, you know, people take it too far, but um no, like the purge night, Jesus. Um like spicy, um, what's called candy too. So like, oh you know, like see if like which candy is spicy, and like not tell them that that's what it is, but yeah, like the vandalism is really what caused it to fall out of favor a lot.
SPEAKER_12Um know how to act. This is when we say we can't have nice things, this is exactly what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03That sounds like it would be really fun, but uh I think I may have seen it like in a movie, like you know, they have those little high school movies and stuff, and I think you know, Disney Channel protects it hard. They do yeah, that type of stuff. So yeah, I think I've heard because when you said it, I was like mischief night. Or I thought that was familiar, yeah, yeah, like a plot in a movie or something like that. We're gonna put fish in all the air conditioning ducks. It's fucking stupid, it's a waste of fish.
SPEAKER_00So there's a movie called Mischief Night too.
SPEAKER_12That uh now you know I gotta go this movie. Oh Lord, yes.
SPEAKER_09Okay, okay. Anybody else have any questions regarding 2014 film?
SPEAKER_12It's not that old. Well, why wouldn't it be? But it's not that it's not even 10 years old yet.
SPEAKER_09Anyone else have any questions about mischief night or any additions?
SPEAKER_06All right, let's see. Who else has a holiday? Let's throw it. It's an American slasher film.
SPEAKER_09Yes, people die in that movie. Yeah, no, I'm joking, and I don't really know.
SPEAKER_03So I'm assuming they do. Like somebody got slashed.
SPEAKER_09It could have been somebody's tires, and so the the apparently the movie has Hey, hey, hey, holidays. The Black McCoy. What's your holiday?
SPEAKER_12I got really into this. Sorry. You did. Uh well, my holiday uh to to you know appeal to my very Marxist and socialist heart is Labor Day. Uh here we go.
SPEAKER_10I love it.
SPEAKER_12So, as you all know, uh Labor Day is the day that we uh clearly don't go to work, or most people don't go to work. Um, but as you know, that that's not entirely the case anymore. Because so the origins of Labor Day started back in the 1800s when there was a huge labor strike, because there were not a lot of uh there's not there was not a lot of regulation around uh lay like labor protections, um, there was still a lot of child labor. People were working like 10 plus hour days, six days a week. And uh they were they were continuing to be, I was about to get on a soapbox, but let me calm down. They were continuing to be viciously exploited by their employers and by different companies. Um, so some something that we had not really moved away from um in our modern day society. But um, I bel I don't, I think it was 18 uh in the 1890s. 1890s was when the first Labor Day was um you mean when they first were told to take off a day of work? Yeah, it was like 1882. It was 1882?
SPEAKER_091890 is when it was made a national holiday.
SPEAKER_12Uh okay.
SPEAKER_09Oh 1894, sorry.
SPEAKER_12Okay, so yeah, 1894 was when it was made a national holiday. But prior, but it actually took a while for the like the um so they had to sign it into uh law to protect laborers because there was of course people rioted, and um, you know, if anyone thinks that riots don't get shit done, uh riots uh start to get shit done because it actually took a while for the laws to come into uh full effect to actually be helpful, to like you know, eight-hour work weeks and so on and so forth. Um, I think it's uh I picked this one particularly because one, it it was a stride in uh I don't want to say labor liberation, but um in the in the rights of laborers um in our country that wasn't that was that had a great impact, but we still don't have the nest, we don't we still have everything that we need as far as working conditions for people in the United States. And to have a holiday that's entirely dedicated to making sure that people and people who have to, you know, work um actually have a day, we don't use it in a way, or we don't, we I think the the national holiday of it all um entirely undermines the the the other strides that we need to make as far as how we respect uh laborers, how we respect people who have to work certain amounts during the week. Um and it's it's I'm trying not to stand on a soapbox, that's why I'm trying to take these things. Take a step back. I'm trying to take a step back, but um and like be clear with what I'm about to say, because I could keep talking for like a couple of hours. But um no, I think that I think that the I think it's great that we have uh a holiday dedicated to you know the emancipation of laborers in some sense. But um, much like racism and sexism and you know all the other isms and phobias that we have floating around in our modern day society, the when an impediment was posed against the powers that be to exploit their worker force or their workforce, uh, it just morphed itself over time into exploiting laborers in wholly other ways. So in my personal opinion, I think Labor Day, while useful uh in some way, shape, or form, or you know, we we honor it and you know we we honor the work of labor unions and things of that nature. Um I had a whole like mental tangent. Like there's like there's a legitimately companies who have like anti-union training aspects when they bring in when they bring in new employees and stuff. But yeah, yeah. Um as as wonderful as Labor Day is as you know, people barbecuing and blah, blah, blah, spending time with people, taking the day off, relaxing, so on and so forth. There, it it doesn't, it didn't actually, it's supposed to honor something, but it didn't actually solve a problem. So yeah, yeah, Labor Day is actually trash. It's it's a it's a it's a mask for the real issues that we have when it comes to uh our workforce in the United States, how we assimilate people into an ideology that continues to allow them the luxury to subvert their expectations for what they deserve and what is humane for them as people, versus this idea of kind of a capitalistic drive to continue to ground themselves in the ability to actually produce and be a force of labor. And even though Marx definitely put forth the idea that, you know, people's labor is a part of, you know, their their life work is a part of who they are, the exploitation of that is very much still a facet of our modern society. And we will we potentially may not actually work past it, um, largely because there will never be an industry. Well, let me not let me not be that pessimistic. There will un it is unlikely that there will be an industry or um a social formation in which we can all exist that doesn't continue to exploit human beings for the investment that is capital.
SPEAKER_10So possible.
SPEAKER_12Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03I got a question though. Yes, um, eloquently put, so claps to you. Yeah. Um, but I have a question that's probably off the beaten path. Why can't we wear white after Labor Day?
SPEAKER_09I don't know. I I was actually about to say, like where's that come from? Right, eloquently put, but the sad part about Labor Day is the oldest memory I have about Labor Day is serial mom and her killing that woman, and then the blood running down her white shoes, saying you're not supposed to wear white after Labor Day.
SPEAKER_12Oh, okay. That's my oldest.
SPEAKER_09Like I didn't know all I knew is they said don't go to school, and serial mom said not to wear white shoes. And after that, that's all I knew. It's really sad.
SPEAKER_12We weren't talking about Google Search Search showed me that it is also a very elitist concept. So the you can't wear white after Labor Day rule was created to separate the old money elitists from the new money group. So those that had money and could leave the city during warmer months, white was considered vacation attire.
SPEAKER_03Oh, my father hates that saying.
SPEAKER_12He really does.
SPEAKER_03He dares you to say he can't he wears white on purpose.
SPEAKER_12Your father and I have that in common.
SPEAKER_09I'm sorry, don't wear white shoes. We bought white shoes. Something about it. We bought white shoes specifically to wear on and after Labor Day. And wish any other time he wears it on Labor Day and the day.
SPEAKER_03Which a motherfucker would tell him he can't wear white.
SPEAKER_12Wait, so this is people also ask why is wearing white after Labor Day illegal?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like it's such a faux pas. Like you can't wear white after Labor Day. Why the fuck not?
SPEAKER_09So is it the day after Labor Day? Is it the rest of the year? Is it like it's interesting until the new day? Like I'm gonna um I don't know.
SPEAKER_13I think it's so this one's saying what were you saying? Oh no, no, go ahead. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry, I thought she had a stream.
SPEAKER_13No, I was but I'll I'll go afterwards.
SPEAKER_12Okay, I was saying that uh after that when it says um, you know, if you didn't have money to take fall and winter vacations, it's not a color you should you should wear. So yeah. I love I love how Shample lady was just like nigga, what makes the same like this how you write the same time? Oh you're too you're too you're too poor to wear white. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, actually, I was just having this conversation uh with Jambo about this. He was like, damn, I guess I'm Zazini. I was like, I fucking told you.
SPEAKER_12I told you it was bougie, bitch. I don't know what you think.
SPEAKER_02Like my parents though, my mom has always said never wear white after Labor Day. Like if I mention white, she was she'll be like, is it winter white? Like, like seriously.
SPEAKER_12If there is one thing I have noticed about boomers, it is that they cling to represent they cling to strong representations of wealth without actually having it.
SPEAKER_03Like you can't put your bag on the floor because it means you got no money.
SPEAKER_02Right, right.
SPEAKER_03That's another one.
SPEAKER_02Like it's still to this day, the bag shall not go on the floor either.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I heard it was bad luck.
SPEAKER_02No, same thing. That's bad luck.
SPEAKER_04Every bag that I have right now is on the floor as we speak. As I look at the work bag, I take with me every time.
SPEAKER_12Your long could probably be on the ground and you wouldn't say shit to nobody.
SPEAKER_09But Chine, you you had a you had a stream you're about to go on?
SPEAKER_13Oh no, I was um growing up, I remember that my grandmother, my mother would say that um, you know, you have your winter colors, so to speak, or even in fashion in general, you usually don't see a lot of people wear white when it starts to get cold. Uh why, I don't know, but it's more so even like when it comes to like hair color, nail colors, you start to see people who want to do darker colors when it gets cold, or they'll do bright pink or more pastel colors when it's warm outside. And even in fashion, you see that being advertised. You see the Easter clothes are pastel and light and flowy, and then when it gets cold, they're darker. So it's also on a fashion sense as well. That's why it's like a fashion faux pas. Um, it's more so that lighter, brighter colors are for um the warmer seasons, and then I and I think I could also probably if I'm speculating, the darker colors usually don't wear in the summer because it's hot and you're gonna get freaking hot. So they usually wear black all the time. Right. I just stand for it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I was about to say like globally when you wear darker colors in the summer is because of how darker colors suck in more light because like it increases the heat. It's like it's like they say black man lions. I was just five minutes how black man lions uh are more or more, have a bigger chance of not being able to have kids because of the heat fucking up the sperm. Right.
SPEAKER_12So like no, it's actually because the they have more testosterone. That's it.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, so it's it's it is a fashion football. It's interesting knowing about the elitist side point, and it makes sense. Um, but I when I was growing up, that was definitely something that was like you don't wear white. Um, but their reasoning was more so I think that was just tradition. But on a fashion standpoint, from what I've noticed, it's what they advertise. You usually don't ever see anybody advertise a white dress or white suit in the fall. You see more so it just goes by the seasons, even with nail color trends, hair trends, uh, the lighter colors are pastel colors are more for when it's warm, sunny, and then the darker colors are for when it's starting to become like fall, winter.
SPEAKER_03Never noticed that until you just said that. I was like, yeah, there's a lot of more neon and pastely, and a lot more like brighter colors in like the summer and spring months, and then else it's like fall, it's like oranges and browns and olive greens and burgundies and stuff like that. Damn.
SPEAKER_12I think that makes a lot of sense because fashion itself is a very elitist injuries industry. So I get that it makes sense that they would continue to perpetuate traditions like that.
SPEAKER_13But it's it's also interesting where I I can see it with like color therapy, so to speak. Like I've noticed that a lot of people, even with when it comes to what you want your inside of your house to be, they're saying to like, you know, different colors you don't put in your house because they're Be a little bit alarming, like red. They're saying red, like bright red is not something right in your house, cooler tones. So it's it's also interesting with moods. And I see that colors. This is not an individual, it's also like for something I noticed more so as a group, like a lot of people in general that I've noticed in in our society. I've noticed just trends of, you know, like uh more pastel, more lighter colors. They have a more the idea is to have a more lighter, flowy, you know, type of mentality and darker or you know, it's it's it's I don't know. I just noticed the colors and moods play a part of it as well. And that's why I've also noticed that people also don't like the fall or winter because it gets dark outside and so their moods change. And so they kind of promote lighter colors for a brighter, you know, brighter feeling, a better feeling about themselves. It's just things that I've noticed. There is a lot of a lot of, you know, I would say connotations with colors in general, whether it's fashion and mood, but it does play a part of it, whether people think about it or not.
SPEAKER_03I agree with that. I mean, especially, I don't know. Remember, Jake, but most of the stuff we see on like lover listed, there's like all like bright colors for like how dare you pull my thought out of my head.
SPEAKER_09I wasn't even gonna say it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because the brighter colors, of course, are gonna open up a room, but yeah, it's like it's like it's like an open concept, it's like a light back brown explaining.
SPEAKER_09Here's your open concepts with your your your where your kitchen flows into your living room, and you can see with the bright colors, everything is open and the windows are open, you see the light come in and all that.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Before I even painted accents in here that were red, like my aunt is like my interior slash fashion designer when I when I need to call her, and so a lot of people are doing the play with color inside their house though, yeah. But it's just for an accent, more so than the whole wall, the main color.
SPEAKER_09You know, to cut off this riveting conversation about color palettes, watches, and things of that nature, but we're way off subject. So we're gonna bring it back and hand it over. Hand it over to Kaze Shinryu. What is your holiday, sir?
SPEAKER_01Hello. Well, you know, uh, you know, I like to stay uh uh uh messy and relevant. Oh so I'm gonna go with Thanksgiving. Oh shit. I was sure everybody was going to avoid that one. Uh oh man, I was I was I was worried somebody's gonna take it.
SPEAKER_12I I knew someone had it in their spirit, and I'm glad I didn't use it because I knew I knew I knew someone who had the who had the the the autisticity, the gall, the the the vicious words the huevos.
SPEAKER_01See and I had I had Labor Day open on my on the next page, so I knew we were but yeah, so uh so around uh what is it 1616 uh when the uh uh when the you know uh Europeans started showing up and bringing all their you know diseases and whatnot.
SPEAKER_09I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but I I appreciate you you striving to use the word Europeans because I I saw so many other words being used and I even I even heard the pause in your voice. I'm I I'm very consideration late. I'm proud that you chose to go to take this road because it could have gone in many ways. I'm glad you didn't say the whites.
SPEAKER_01I just need for like when we lose our first monster for it not to be like like when we can take that on the chin, and then I'll and then I'll just feel like okay after that. Okay. But yeah, so that you know, so they came, they started showing up around uh 1616. The uh the the Native Americans uh living there, the that tribe uh there at the time was uh forgive my pronunciation, was the uh uh Wampanoag uh nation. There was a there was about uh a hundred thousand of them. Uh but um but actually the they uh they actually initially had uh most was mostly getting along because the uh the chief of uh the Wampanoags was uh I I guess you say, you know, he's very tolerant. Um and he uh and he probably uh was you know foresaw the that you know collaborating and working together was probably better for his people than you know the other. Uh but um the next chief, which was uh was actually his son, you know, he he and over the next 50 years, uh, you know, he saw all the all the you know all the like rules being broken like through their through their treaties. So when he became chief, he was like, no, that's it. And uh and so he actually started uh he actually initiated the the war between his people and uh and the colonists. And uh yeah, and they were uh wiped out uh shortly after that. Uh, you know, not in and that and that's and that's and that's not to mention the you know, just the this all the diseases that they were getting uh just just from them uh showing up. But yeah, they were sold into slavery, uh it was genocide. Um uh actually actually the uh they actually uh lost their language uh around 1820. So like so they don't even know what what they what they spoke anymore. Like they just I guess it wasn't enough of them around, or there was too much history lost. Um, and now there's only 10,000 of them left. And uh yeah, uh so you know, so thank you know, so it's it's it's just kind of funny how we uh what's the word? Uh glorify is not the word I want, but I'll say, you know, it's funny, it's it's funny how we you know exaggerate and glorified like one. It was like one one dinner that happened like a year before the Mayflower showdown, and uh, and they're guessing that that's what's that's what Thanksgiving was based off of. It was uh and I think I think I think they initially, I think the they had like the early the the people show up before the the main the main boats. And uh and I think and I think they were hot kind of hostile at first and then they kind of made up. And then after they made up, that's when the that's when there's like dinner supposedly getting in, you know, and they like and uh and you know, and the colonists were starving. So, you know, so that was that was like one of the part of the things where they showed them how to till the lands and do all the things. So, you know, so they had like they they had the big feast, they celebrated for three days, and uh, you know, and uh and the colonists really took advantage of uh you know the hospitality and the knowledge of the land and you know, and all this through a language barrier, like uh, but um yeah, no, so it's you know that Thanksgiving is really really funny. Thanksgiving, and then of course, you know, it's hard to talk about that without talking about Columbus Day as well. Um, but we we won't go into that because time. Um but yeah, yeah, Thanksgiving ain't shit. It's uh it's it's uh it's a it's a glorified day to eat and not work. And uh yeah, yeah, I've come to terms with that.
SPEAKER_12And not everybody gets to not eat. I mean, not work.
SPEAKER_10Also true.
SPEAKER_07So anybody have any additions to Thanksgiving?
SPEAKER_03Sad to be in that shit, like he said. Um yeah. Honestly, yeah, because I almost worked on Thanksgiving because my instructor was like you know, he was like, So do you wanna, you know, I don't want you to come in, but you can if you want to, bitch. I don't want to. I I don't I don't want to. What are you talking about? We no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that, even though I have to do the driver back and forth. It's like very one-sided for certain things. Like you take off, but some people don't have off. It's kind of a uh government holiday, but not really because you know hospitals don't close, they still come in on Thanksgiving, and sometimes they work, sometimes they still don't get off until what is it, eight o'clock at night, and that's when all the food is gone. So and uh yeah.
SPEAKER_09For me, again, you know, we uh I think the first time most of us might have had even an inkling of our eyes being opened was the Adams Family movie. Um Wednesday definitely opened a lot of people's eyes because before then, you know, we had our classroom projects where you know some people were Indians and some people were pilgrims, and we had, you know, different newscasters saying that this is what this is about love, togetherness, how you know Christopher Columbus brought you know uh everything to the uh the Native Americans. And uh it's it's sad and deplorable uh is the best two words. Well, I can probably come up with more words than that, but I'll just say for now, to know that you know, years after years after decades after decades of lies and you know deceit, uh now you know people are being informed and people are struggling to hold on to their seat belts to prevent the truth from being told. Um uh I was watching a not a documentary, it wasn't it was a news report where people were arguing with the news reporter about the fact that their kids were being that they were comfortable with their kids being told lies. And in my head, I was like, oh, these must be the same people still telling the children about, you know, Santa Claus. Uh, because for you to be so comfortable with your children sitting in a lie that once they get to a certain age or a certain grade, or unless they're being homeschooled, once they get to a certain level, somebody's gonna tell them. And depending on dependent on the child, it's either gonna come off as you, my parent is a liar, or everything for my childhood is a lie. So, like the the the the the I hate to say blessing, but the the benefit for us is everybody was being lied to. Well, we just happen to be the age range or the age group of the generation that found out about the lies along with our parents. Because it's like, you know, our parents thought, oh shit, that really that was what oh, you know, I knew that, I knew that line, but you know, it's okay because you know, you didn't know and I didn't know. So I can't blame you for lying because you you handed down the lie, you didn't know yourself. So, but you know, the younger kids, you know, and let me change that because that's that's that's black people. That ain't everybody. The white people always knew that truth was handed down. Like, see, again, I also blame the black McCoy because of America Horror Story. And um what's the other one? Um, other thing I watched that I didn't get to finish. Um, crap, Lovecraft Country. Uh, how they were talking about the background of about a lot of different groups and a lot of different uh uh ancestral.
SPEAKER_11How am I being blamed for these things?
SPEAKER_09I'll explain you, I'll explain in a second. Uh a lot of different ancestral uh uh documentation that was being handed down to certain families and certain uh uh bloodlines who it was their responsibility to spread it to the right people, uh, kind of going back to that elitism, uh, elitism that we were talking about for Labor Day, how certain people knew, but not everybody's supposed to know. And because they have that information, that's why they're able to say certain things and say, I'm not a racist. Because, and I said this in a previous episode, there's a specific word which they go by and they're comfortable with that word because that word it embodies what they are, what they do, what they think, what they say, but they'll never say that racist is that word, and that's how they can, you know, keep themselves, you know, on the up and up standings tall. Now, back to the point that you just asked. Uh, I already told you before, I had to sit there and watch that. Um, and I'm specifically talking about AHS uh because you fell asleep and we're just sitting there watching it. You just I had to sit there and watch the entire season.
SPEAKER_12Anyway, now it's as if you lose all autonomy as a pressure.
SPEAKER_09So, yes, uh, but continuing going back to what I was talking about before. Um, yeah, no, it's it's it's uh it's depressing to have to really watch how people struggle to hold on to lies, uh, or rather hold on to fairy tale. The idea.
SPEAKER_03Uh it's it's it's like they're so gum-ho about oh, this is a family tradition. Oh, this is such and such.
SPEAKER_09No, no, the family tradition, baby, is you eating with your family. That that ain't the tradition ain't the story because it's a lie.
SPEAKER_03Exactly, exactly. That's what that's what they they're they're so shut about that that they don't know what's separated, and nobody's telling you not to, and that's that's always so confusing when people try to tell them here's the truth.
SPEAKER_09Nobody's telling you not to do the things that you love to do with your family. If you want to go play football, go play football. If you want to cook for your family, go cook for your family. If you want everybody to come to you, just call it something else, or if you want to continue calling it Thanksgiving, that's fine. But you just need to accept the fact that what you think Thanksgiving is is not what Thanksgiving is. But nobody they they say it all has to be together, it has to be fused together, it has to be the one thing, it cannot be separate. And and for me, but Thanksgiving, that's what bothers me the most. I'm like, uh and others in other holidays, but Thanksgiving is a big one. It's like just acknowledge the fact that you can separate it because it's not the same. The stuff that's going on behind the stuff that went on behind the scenes is not something to be celebrated. Nobody's saying, do not give thanks for your family, your loved ones, you know, aunt or Aunt Mert uh Myrtle's or what is her name? Uh Myrtle. There you go. Myrtle's uh uh uh potato salad, macaroni and cheese. Nobody's saying if you don't want to give thanks for that. I'm I'm sure it tastes like it it sounds, but just separate it, keep it different, keep it separate. Acknowledge the fact that some trifling ass, ratchet ass, the the uh Holocaust level ass shit happened. You know, once you do, we can actually have a conversation, but they don't want to do that, so yeah.
SPEAKER_13That was my biggest concern with Thanksgiving. Um, of course, we one of my biggest concerns, we were all portrayed as children, and and the thing was it was the education system that really bothered me. There are a lot of things that we were taught and that were in textbooks, you know, when people say go research, and that those are in written texts on the their version of history, and their version of history is incorrect. And a lot of these holidays that we celebrate is based off of history on what people choose for us to believe. And the issue I had was 300 years Native Americans had to deal with the hurt and mourning of their tribes being massacred and murdered while they're seeing uh a lot of people being taught to celebrate it as a a mutual uh coming together. And that's not what it is. And a Native American sees this as a mourning day where they, you know, their their voices weren't heard for 300 years. And now people are just taking uh knowing what's going on and and really you know putting their foot down. But that is multiple generations of uh pain and triggering for years. And it's I just can't even fathom. And and you know, and then seeing uh different ethnicities celebrate and uh the um of white people did not give them the voice to even it's just amazing how someone can that how they can uh basically control a certain narrative for multiple generations and and and people cannot be heard. And the same thing with uh slavery as well. What we were taught in school in textbooks is very different from what actually happened. And it's just it's just I'm very skeptical about US history or history in general, because no matter where you go, you're always gonna have people of power and money that are going to change a narrative of what they want you to believe. And so it's it's it's I don't know, it always leaves me in a very strange place mentally when it comes to like what is it that children should really be taught, you know, versus what is what is fake versus fiction, you know, fake for sorry, what's fake versus reality. We sometimes we really never know. And then we might even we might not even be alive to even know the truth. And that's kind of what bothers me. You know, so many people before us passed away not knowing the truth about Thanksgiving. And it's just our generation now knowing uh the small details, not even the full detail of what happened, you know, on that type of genocidal, you know, experience that a lot of these Native Americans had gone through. So it's just something that I I very much struggle with with Thanksgiving. Um, and then people just don't like change because for you to change, you have to be, you have to feel uncomfortable. People do not like to feel uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, that's exactly the point that I'm glad you touched on about how you got to the end. Cause like as you were talking and you like you were saying that the thing that scares you is that you know, we may die and people may will never know the truth. The thing that scares me is that people just won't care and they won't try to do anything about it. And it's interesting because I'm always find myself caught in this weird relationship of hating people just generally. I have a genuine loathing for humanity, but at the same time, I have so much hope and care and love for humanity at the same time because I I understand the if I if I if there was a definition of falling in love with the potential, then my my love for humanity is falling in love with the potential. Like I know that humanity is capable of really, you know, great things and of in uh being able to uh handle stuff and do things that are very like equitable, ethical, you know, morally, you know, morally righteous, not only morally righteous in the religious sense, but like just morally righteous way that you know is actually uh uh a good for all people. Um and just being able to reconcile with the truth of history um is not something that I have watched people on individual levels as well as in on um like larger communities, community levels be able to fully reconcile with people um from how what I've observed have had a very, very difficult time even being transparent with themselves about the truth of their of their of their histories. Um and trying it's one thing to do, make an effort to pull oneself away from the problematic history that's associated on an individual or collective level, but it is another to to see it standing in front of you and deny it altogether and do nothing about it just for the sake of continuing to perpetuate the same pattern or the same quote unquote normalcy, regardless of how harmful it actually is, um, just for the sake of continuing to remain complacent with you know that that comfortability. And it's like, why? Why why like why why why how? And what and watching people go through this kind of uh gratuitous like malaise that uh that is like this this normalcy of dealing with really fucked up things and tolerating and living in and trying to reappropriate in these desperate attempts to find themselves on the quote unquote better side of history or to reduce harm in a way or find the lesser of their two evils is it's I I in in a very uh kind of jokerish way, it's laughable because it's like it's a it's it's very much a bad joke. And I can't remember which philosopher it was, and I I'm bothered, I think it was Hegel, but I'm not gonna tie myself to that. But um there's this idea that history repeats itself, but history repeats itself in farce, and that's one thing that I'm always constantly aware of, is that history repeats itself to the extent where it's just a it's just a in the in a reductive sense, a really bad joke to see it happening over and over again, and people not learning, not even specifically learning from the mistakes that they've made or the the the um the wrongs of their ancestors, but just continuing to make the same mistakes in the in just in different ways. Like it's like when we see like the regional variate variants of different Pokemon. It's the same Pokemon, it's just it just looks different. It's it's it's it still does the same, it still looks fun, still looks and acts functionally the same. It still battles, it's still being you know poached by 10-year-olds. But overall, uh yeah, no, Cyan, I absolutely agree. Like that that's the part that scares me the inability to reconcile with the fact that things need to change, or that something needs to change, or even that what's happening right now should not be happening, or what happened should be um, there should be some sort of reparative action um or restorative action associated. With what happened with you know our present day conditions as as they relate to the things that they're built upon. It's like you don't want to build on a you don't want to live in a house that's built on a bunch of dead bodies. Like why why would why not either get rid of the house or move it somewhere else or rebuild it all together on something better? But people don't want to, at least in mass, go through that kind of uh that restorative uh process. And it's it's depressing for me because I want them to, I want people to be better and I want people to have better constantly. But I'm I'm perpetually disappointed by the fact that people don't want to be better.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think I think I think it touches kind of on the uh which which I think is uh kind of an overall theme of the episode is is just like you know, revision revisionist history. And and I and I and and like uh Sayonet touched on, I think the uh I th I think I think part of the problem is uh is is you uh you like accepting this uh history is also like the first step in uh realizing whether or not you uh or something you benefit from was complicit in it. So it's like you know, the longer you pretend like it didn't happen, uh the longer you can just you know keep keep going scot-free, not worrying about it. Uh so it's uh you know, it's really it's really unfortunate. That really reminded me a lot of the the conversations and arguments like regarding like uh you know like C like CRT. Y'all really, really don't want to hear this. Like it's it is odd the the the crap that y'all will you know put in books and uh and just you know and you know and we've and we've always heard like the uh the the the the victors are the ones who write history. And it's kind of like you never you do you never you never really think you never really think about that uh because cuz uh because in in America's narrative they are they are never the you know the aggressor the you know they always they're always big brother, they're always standing up for what's right and and good old democracy. And I just saw it too.
SPEAKER_12Entirely that's the entire plot of attack on Titan. That's the entire plot of Attack on Titan. Revisionist history.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it is horrifying, and it's kind of like if if if if y'all if y'all wanted to be as great as you claim to be, you would you you would you would run into this head on and deal with it. Because like this is this is part of what got we got us where we are. So either either either take it up and say like nope, they did what they did what they supposed to do, and da-da-da, and and support your ancestors, or uh be like, they were fucked up, that was fucked up, and we need to see what we gotta do to make sure this doesn't happen again.
SPEAKER_12We need to find a better way. And one thing I want one thing I do want to say, like I what as critical as I am of the the frailties and idiocies of the human condition, I do want to like recognize that it's it's difficult. It's not always easy, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing. One of the things about revisionist history is that it's such a commonplace, it's such a commonplace facet of how we interact with each other that it's it's one of those things that has this like larger um identity when it comes to, you know, you know, the history of America or the history of a people or whatever. But people do it on individual, individual levels constantly. The memory is not a reliable thing. And the way in which people view themselves constantly um aggressively inserts itself into narratives constantly. But a hyper awareness of not simply just that presence of you know how we construct and fictionalize in some capacities our personal identities, not simply on an individual level, but as a collective, is extremely important to recognize because it helps us be much more attentive towards the needs of those who exist outside of us. Um and it's uh it's a wonderful, in my personal opinion, it's a wonderful place to start the deconstruction of self because it has so many expansive implications that lead you to some beautiful like ethical and moral conclusions. And at the same time, I wanted to address the idea that you know being complicit in something is also really, really difficult. Um, just even on individual levels, I've watched and heard people be unable to recognize the comp their complicity, their complicity in different situations and different establishments and perpetuating different harms and perpetuating different environments. Like people, I think it's hard because people don't like to feel responsible for things that they personally didn't intend to happen. And it's it's normal, it's very human, but it's also something that needs to be overcome on a number of levels. And so uh enacting that in a very large on a very large scale sounds almost like a moot thing to do because people are, I think that generally on an individual level, people are so against it, and you know, they uh they fight against the idea of doing so on a very, very uh essential level, but it's not impossible. Improbable, but not impossible. So the fact that it's more possible, uh the fact that it is possible is what gives me hope that it can happen. Um, but the fact that it is also improbable is something that kind of depresses me at the same time. Like I that's I guess that's that's where the hope comes from. It comes from the notion of possibility, and the the the frustration comes from the like the the stronger likelihood of improbability.
SPEAKER_10So I guess we must move on to another holiday. I will hand it over to shampoo bracelet.
SPEAKER_04Hi everybody, how you doing so I had two little holidays at the snatch from my dress.
SPEAKER_01Um the dangers are going like that exactly.
SPEAKER_04Um but um and as I sit here and wonder about I have two holidays in my hands, which I don't know which one I want to fuck up. So uh I'm actually gonna I'm gonna pick one that can lead me into another subject as well, which is uh very close to my heart. And I will start off with Columbus Day.
SPEAKER_05Oh, Columbus Day, everybody.
SPEAKER_04Because I don't see how we celebrate the day where a man accidentally found land that didn't need to be discovered. Um and then that proceeded to lead to like the genocide of many a people, millions of people, which has just been talked about at length. And I still tried, but that's the the I guess the beauty of America. Uh I don't know how that really how that really works. Let's celebrate some bullshit. We don't celebrate uh we don't celebrate Hitler Day, so I always wonder why Clovis Day is so big. But then um it kind of leads me to uh I guess my and this is my personal, I guess, issues with yeah, with uh birthdays as a whole. Oh boy. Yeah, let's go with birthdays as a whole, and how that's supposed to be how people act like that's supposed to be a holiday. Motherfucker, I didn't know you when you were born, like I just think it wasn't such a baby to be. Like it's like you know, so I just just want to get the thoughts on that. Um I let the room have that one. I let the room have that one. I think like I said, the Linda's been funky.
SPEAKER_01I'll I'll touch on both of those. So you know, so then I I didn't think I was gonna get the big C. But now that we're here, yes, but Big C. Like like let's let's let's talk about how you were like uh looking for a country on the other side of the planet. Uh let's let's let's talk about how you uh landed on a like on an island that wasn't even part of the main continent. Like you like Wasn't he looking for India? Yeah, yeah, yes he was, yes he was, which is why we still incorrectly call Native Americans Indians, yes. Like it's the it you know, it kind of it really it really like goes back to that and that whole uh like hero, like superhero narrative that we like to give ourselves. And it's kind of like if y'all was if y'all was really serious about keeping your image, you you would have buried that, but but that's but that's not like that that's it was such a colossal failure, or or or so be like multiple levels, and and and and yet he's a yeah, and yet he's a hero. Like he he he failed at at at almost every turn except for what came to genocide. Which uh biological warfare, don't forget that.
SPEAKER_12I mean, I mean, I don't there's a wonderful book and documentary called Guns, Germs, and Steel. Please get into it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I don't I don't even want to give him biological warfare because that would that that would that would uh imply that it was on purpose and they weren't even they was just nasty as fuck. Yeah, like they uh you know they they they put the person who uh who came up with washing your hands before surgery into into the nut house. Like these are not a clean people, uh but um yeah, that's enough. That's yeah, mm-hmm. I could I could go on, but I won't. Uh but and and then the I think I think I think uh I think a big thing with the birthday thing is I think uh I think that might go back to uh how much life expectancy has changed. Um entirely. And yeah, and like and going back to how like if you made it another year, like this is about this is a blessing, like because I w we did not know if we was going to make it.
SPEAKER_09We didn't see it happening.
SPEAKER_12So so one of the things one of the things about that is that like birthdays weren't really a thing until calendars came into creation, uh, because early civilizations didn't have a way of keeping track of them of when they were how old they were, you know, when they're and all that kind of stuff, until you know, because they just kept track by using the sun and the moon. Um, and that's what you know when people say many moons ago or like different these number of cycles or whatever, um, it made that made it really difficult to pay attention to like the anniversary of when someone was born because you didn't know like when a whole calendar year was or whatever. And then after calendars were created, um, a lot of scholars who studied like the Bible and stuff said the earliest mentions of birthdays were around um, I don't know, I want to say like 3000 BC or something. Um, and it was to reference the pharaoh's birthday, but it wasn't like the day the pharaoh was born, it was supposed to represent the the day you know the the the pharaoh became um or you know, entered their birth as like a god or whatever. And because ancient Greeks, which is actually more closer to like my area of thought because of philosophy, but because the ancient Greeks had this belief that every person had a spirit that was, you know, really present on the day of their birth, um, best spirit like helped keep watch and had like a mystic relationship with the god on whose birthday that particular individual was born. So it a lot of that started around kind of moving from, which, you know, which doesn't surprise me, from this more I want to call it, call it elitist, but I'll call it because I'm sure some Hebrew Israelites might listen to this episode, um, a more, you know, uh regal uh privilege, so to speak, uh, moving towards this more kind of egalitarian understanding that, you know, everyone has this uh association with God that they are that they have. So everyone is a part of this culture of being born or having a day in which they are born and associated. And of course, that evolved like over the years, um, and it looks different as you know, it transitions to a lot of different cultures. But when you look at it from a Western standpoint, one of the major facets of it is that birthdays were first considered to be a pagan ritual in Christian culture, and it just kind of evolved. Like those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because in Christianity it was believed that you know, people are born with original sin. And so that in combination with you know their birthdays being tied to pagan gods, that led Christians to consider birthdays to be like celebrations of evil, and that lasted for like a long time, like a few hundred years until the like the existence of the Christian church itself.
SPEAKER_10Yet they celebrate Jesus' birthday.
SPEAKER_09Sorry, anyway. Um, so uh my feeling I actually I don't think I can add anything to the Christopher Columbus thing. I think we I feel like if I do, I'll go on a tangent. Um, so I'm not going to. He's not shit.
SPEAKER_03It's not shit.
SPEAKER_09It's not. It's do it.
SPEAKER_04Go ahead, do it. Let it let it run.
SPEAKER_02The fact that it took so long for us to celebrate Indigenous People Day disturbs me. But we still celebrate that motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03Um they still have both like names on the calendar.
SPEAKER_09Like they do both of them are there, and Indigenous People's Day is in is in is in parentheses on most calendar.
SPEAKER_02In the same shit, right under the lot of states won't give people like you know how like you used to get Christopher Columbus Day off.
SPEAKER_12But certainly you know what the gag is the day after Thanksgiving is Native American Heritage Day, yeah.
unknownThat sounds fucked up.
SPEAKER_10They fought for that one.
SPEAKER_03They have to be stupid. Like I had my calendar and I saw the Joan's like, oh, it's what indigenous people in parentheses. I'm like, so Jaffa.
SPEAKER_10Y'all just didn't want to.
SPEAKER_02Y'all don't want to let that name go. Right.
SPEAKER_10Like, I don't understand.
SPEAKER_03It's we want our day too, headass. Like the fuck? Like, it makes no sense. I don't get it. I don't, I don't get it.
SPEAKER_04Colonizer day statues and shit. I think that's gonna be a holiday. I think it should be a good idea. It should be.
SPEAKER_09I think I think it would effectively be very beneficial for them.
SPEAKER_02They don't want to live on their mistakes or something like that.
SPEAKER_09It's so annoying. The doctor, did you have a point?
SPEAKER_00Oh no, just um kind of add to this, like, there's still so much of the US where Columbus is really, really admired or being seen as his hero. Reverend. I'm always stunned when I go to New York and see like they have the big Columbus circle with the giant statue, like in otherwise progressive New York. But yeah, like it's you know, kind of just you know, going back to the I saw the shade of otherwise.
SPEAKER_03That's all the shade.
SPEAKER_00That's all that yeah, like it's this idea, like, you know, oh, we want to keep him as this hero. We want to focus on the incredible atrocities he committed because that would be inconvenient for us, you know, us being certain people, you know. The whites.
SPEAKER_09Oh, somebody. Um, you know, it's it's the there's I I think one of the main things that Kaze kind of explained very eloquently, actually, um, is you know, normally when people try to stand up for individuals who are wrong, um, they try to find the silver lining, they try to find like the good in the in the bad. And Kaze, like I said eloquently, explained how in so many different ways he fucked up. Like there wasn't there there really wasn't a positive to his journey. Like he was he was traveling to go take, not buy, spices. He was eventually completely lost and on the other side of the world. Many of the people on his ship died uh because he was not prepared for this long ass trip that he accidentally decided to take.
SPEAKER_04There was a lot of community as well. Like there are people that don't like really talk about the lack of leadership or his part. He was a terrible leader.
SPEAKER_09Technically, he wasn't even the captain of the ship. He was supposed to, he was just the person whose name was on the letter. That's why nobody killed him. He was sent with a letter from either the emperor or the king of the time. So that's the only reason why I didn't kill him because you know he has to come back, right? He his name is on it. Everybody else can go, though. And then all the other, you know, atrocities, which I'm not going into because as I said, because I already did. It's the there was no positive to his journey.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's so interesting because you're absolutely you're both absolutely right that any objective look at him would range from from an abject failure to a just complete monster. Yep, you know, by both being true. Yeah, but I also don't underestimate the ability of people to really overlook even the worst and most glaring and negative aspects of someone or some figure if they love that figure or if they see themselves in that figure. And that's where you know a lot of this comes from. It's I mean, it's just really white supremacy in just one more different form at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. I and it's interesting that you said that, the doctor, because it immediately made me like revisit my point on revisionist history that people revise their the uh people revise their personal narratives as well as their collective ones to suit their perspectives that they need at the time or that they need for themselves in general to continue to maintain um in in some way, shape, or form the supremacy of the idea of the personal identity. So it's it's it's always so it's I it's it annoys me because I've seen it happen on individual levels, like with folks in my personal life and stuff like that. It's like this clearly was a bad thing, and this clearly was a set of bad things, but you allow these bad things to continue because you have this personal view or relationship to the kind of person that you are, the kind of things you do or you don't do, or you know, the kind of person that they are. But it's like this was a really terrible thing. Uh how and it's but you we we want to continue. It's and again, like it's one of those things committing a fault on themselves, right? Right. And it's it's one of those things that to me is like it's very human, it's very natural, but it also should be a thing that we should be hyper aware of. Like we we know when we know when shit should not happen. We know when certain things are wrong. Like it's it's not a difficult thing to figure out. It's when we have to do like the the mental gymnastics, or even for some people, just like the the habituated kind of just you know, left turn to validate or to justify continuing to allow something accountability, yeah, yeah, yeah. To completely deny the the existence of the accountability that needs to be there. It it it's it's so it's it's fascinating, horrifying, uh on some degree funny, but also overall just relatively delusional. Not even relatively, it's delusional.
SPEAKER_03Extreme it's the fact that it was like you're saying, like acknowledge that it happened, take a mobility, like he fucked up, but he didn't didn't really fuck up.
SPEAKER_09That's the shit I it's that point right there.
SPEAKER_11No, the thing that gets made okay, but they had a reason for doing it. I don't give a fuck what the reason was.
SPEAKER_09You could you could no no no no no no no no no no no what was the reason? What was the reason? What was the reason?
SPEAKER_03Tell me what was the reason it's the literally like trying to skirt around, it's like having that hidden uncle that did a bad thing to little kids at the park and shit. Like that, but he had a mental I'm like, okay, cool, then put his ass in the house. Like he's he still did the shit. Like you, I get it. There still needs to be consequences, he still did the shit. Like it is the fact that you you're you're skirting over the fact that a lot of people were hurt in the process, but he got the spices though.
SPEAKER_07Did he?
SPEAKER_03He didn't run India, didn't get the didn't even find his shit. But he got an adult though.
SPEAKER_12He didn't catch any spices, he caught bodies in half. He caught bodies.
SPEAKER_03And then it's like it's it's just that that missing of those and that's what I was just saying.
SPEAKER_09Like, you people are like, Oh, but he did it. No, he didn't, he didn't mean to do that. That was on accident, and it wasn't good.
SPEAKER_03Force gumped his way across the fucking ocean.
SPEAKER_12That's well, don't do force gump like that. Forrest gump was a wonderful don't do that.
SPEAKER_03The analogy works. The analogy works. The analogy works, and he fucked it. He's the he's the and he's the anti forest gump.
SPEAKER_08He's it's I can give you that.
SPEAKER_03Okay, there we go.
SPEAKER_01Um, anti gump.
SPEAKER_03He anti gumped his ass across the ocean.
SPEAKER_01Okay, and it's also the whole thing where I think. Think another thing why it doesn't come up is I think a lot of people uh know exactly what he did and and are proud of it. Yep. And but but then we'll have a conversation because they don't want to admit out loud that that they think that the the America we have today was worth the genocide. And like, you know, like and like like and like uh uh when brought up the uh they uh this this foundation of the of uh on the bones of other peoples that that that we're staying on. They uh they know that's they they know that's the foundation and they have no intention of moving it or anything, they'll rather just not talk about it and have and have uh their quiet pride.
SPEAKER_03Because it's been working for them for so long. So why can't we change it?
SPEAKER_04Well, also keep in mind was it when we first came over here, it was mostly criminals. Well, it was mostly criminals that came over here originally, right?
SPEAKER_10Yes, criminals and death servants.
SPEAKER_04So we don't need to admit that we enjoyed what he did. It was a free alcatraz, yeah. Great, we're green. All you gotta do is disappear and keep going west. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, you can commit a crime over in Europe and then come over this way, you'll be free. And it was like that's so a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of issues that came behind him finding this country that also led to a lot of fortunes for people who did a lot of misfortunes. So it's like that's why I was like, a lot of people probably won't admit, oh, they're proud of what he did, because you really think about it, how the country was built, the country itself is proof that they're proud of how what he did, how this whole thing started.
SPEAKER_09Actually, that is a phenomenal point. I it's funny, I've I've known that for years. Like that happened, that that particular note happened to be in my textbook from fourth grade. But the fact that you just said it that way, wow. So literally, our country was built on criminals and murderers and and white people. Well, I mean, I knew that part, but no, criminals and murders, because they were all the people who were sent over here were indentured servants. Because Columbus, once he was yeah, because once Columbus got over here and sent word back that he needs people to help build this new land, they sent over indentured people who can work off their time, and then they were promised that they would get land 40 acres, all that. Well, maybe not 40, they got several acres, um, uh, and all that other shit. So realistically, the country, and maybe that's why they they want to and don't want to admit it, like their entire lineage is a bunch of criminals.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But yet they look at us like that on a consistent basis.
SPEAKER_04Well, the reason why they I think some of the reasons why they do that, because if you think about it, how like how prison systems work today, with a lot of how prisons don't work like that. Well, not well, not to the extent we don't get the benefits that they made that they were getting back in the day. Like I said, we just do the work less.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, we get the clothes.
SPEAKER_04But it's like so it was it was like they took the original, the original idea of how America was created and then just you know took things away from it. And that's how you got your penitentiaries or you got your uh your you know prison systems of the day. It's the same concept, it's just oh, why are we gonna, we're not gonna make the same mistake of giving these people what we were given after we did our work in time. We're just gonna take shit away from them. And then if we release them back into the society, they'll come right back because now they don't have anything and they're not gonna get anything when they get out. So they're so they're gonna so they yeah, so they're gonna immediately agree to the idea of well, at least I was giving uh three hearts of the cock, and then they're gonna go right back in. You know, like now, it's like you said we sleeping on floors out in there. We you know, like say, yeah, this is shit we gotta go through, but you know, we had we had jobs, we have food, you know, it's like and they'll they'll go back, and that's how the whole thought process of uh institutionalization begins.
SPEAKER_12You said institutionalized ain't shitism. No, I really don't know what you said, that's what I heard.
SPEAKER_09I say institutionalization, but no, I don't think but to uh comment also on your secondary point, birthdays. Um, I didn't really want to go into this one, but uh when I say into this one, I don't want to like have it drag on. But my whole thing about uh birthdays is um my thought process is an opportunity for individuals to be selfish. Um and some people need that. Uh I won't deny that because some people are you know the opposite of that. Um, and then some people don't use it for that purpose at all. Some people use it just to glorify themselves in some way, shape, or form. Um remembrance of a birthday, I think, is uh, as uh uh the black McCoy was saying before, just an or was it Kaze, uh an opportunity to kind of keep track of the different things that have happened over time and over uh between and the march on to, oh, it was Kaze. Uh the life expectancy is higher. So just you know, acknowledging the fact that we've made it another year and we've made it, you know, onto the slow march towards death, as people sometimes say. Um, but I will say that the main thing is it's it's an opportunity for an individual to take stock. Uh at least that's the that's the positive way people try to spin it. An opportunity for somebody to take stock in the things that have happened uh over the year. Uh, the same thing about an anniversary, same thing about you know, some type of remembrance of a a set date. It's uh what has happened over the last 365 or 360. And you don't get me don't get me started about leap years or uh who child. I who if you want to talk about a uh a day that needs to or a year that needs to go someplace, fucking leap years. So you might as well another fucking holiday. Either keep the day or just like savings time. Benjamin fucking banker I said banker, Benjamin fucking Franklin will fuck himself all that bullshit about uh uh uh the the hours and the days and the sun and the all and the moon. Nigga, who who made who named you the Mayan calendar and decided to change the way we operate for the past for the for the next several decades and years and into the future? Do you do you do you do y'all realize that niggas in other continents don't celebrate daylight savings time? Like when I realized that when I was three or four, because I have relatives obviously in other continents. And the fact that they're like, you know, we're like uh, you know, they uh we don't say, you know, it's not like you say happy daylight savings time, but you know, you remind people, hey, the clock is going forward, your clock is going to be back when we had to turn it. I just made myself old, but it's back when we had to turn the clock our damn selves. We have to cell phone to do it for us, or or it's okay. We all have to do it. And we you know, we're telling people, oh, oh, don't forget to set your clocks back. Oh, well, we don't live in the US, we don't have to set our clocks back. Oh, so now now all of a sudden, because of uh the time zones, you're five or six hours away from me. Nigga, why are we doing this? What is so special about this land that we need to set our clocks forward and backwards?
SPEAKER_08Why can't we do something against see the reason why all of us had that week that we were we we we we couldn't sleep or we could sleep or or our sleep was messed up? We had to go late, but some went down, some went up of this situation because the hours.
SPEAKER_03It's like you know those pressure cookers. Yes, you start to hear the shit. Because he talks about it every year. Every fucking year talks about the clock, got rid of this clock, fall forward and kiss my ass. That's like yeah, yeah, it's just yeah.
SPEAKER_09Oh and the audacity to move that shit from from from September, October into November. When was it in November? When has it ever been in November? Now all of a sudden it's three weeks back. How does that make sense? Why is it on the same day every single year? If Benjamin Franklin ain't here no more, who the fuck is changing the damn day?
SPEAKER_04I didn't start paying attention to daylight savings styles until I was damn 18. Gonna be real with you. I just I just didn't see it for it. But all right, sorry.
SPEAKER_12Listen, do not undermine the temporal traumas that just occurred here, okay?
SPEAKER_09Anyway, uh, do I feel better? I don't know. I have a hat on.
SPEAKER_12No, because the time no, because we don't feel better, because the time is gonna change again, and it's gonna be like, what the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_09And and you know what, ladies and gentlemen, this is why. Uh, going back to what I said in the in last week's episode, just go ahead and be an entrepreneur, start your own business. You want to know why? Because if you work a nine to five, you have to you still have to abide by these damn hours. But if you own your own damn business, you become a damn time you want to strive to be better. Fuck this damn hour change. Oh, the doctor.
SPEAKER_12So become entrepreneurs so you can be a teleport.
SPEAKER_09Now, back to what I was saying. Um, I'm not sure if Sayone uh uh had a holiday that she wanted to discuss.
SPEAKER_13Um yes, I did actually.
SPEAKER_09Um, I wasn't sure if you were there.
SPEAKER_13No, I was, I was. I was listening to everybody.
SPEAKER_12You listen to the sermon you just gave. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_13So my holiday is uh I I bet both most of y'all could guess it's Halloween. Um which is um my favorite holiday out of the year. Um, but the history actually goes back 2000 years in ancient Ireland. Um, the Celtics actually celebrated it um to mark the beginning of the harvest season and also welcoming the well, I wouldn't say welcome. It was more so a little bit of a fear of winter and what it has to come. A lot of times it can bring um famine due to uh their crops uh you know dying and and uh they had druids to kind of um help predict the weather and to see if it was going to um affect their crops going into the uh colder uh months to come. So it was believed that on October 31st, that was the the veil of the living and the dead was the thinnest. And that is when spirits can cross over into the mortal realm. And so druids use these spirits to kind of help guide them on what it is, what is to come with the winter season, if their crops are going to completely perish and and their community has to go through famine or if they would be prosperous. Um, so also to protect themselves from these uh possible evil spirits, they would dress up um uh you know as monsters uh so that the they could uh camouflage themselves, so to speak, with uh, you know, these these evil malicious spirits that could possibly harm them. So it's very interesting. Um, you know, listening to well, researching the history of Halloween. And um a lot of the uh Irish uh settlers that came to America brought those traditions over here. Um there were a lot of backlash with Christianity and Catholicism because they saw it as an evil pagan holiday that was to worship the devil, and that is not what it was at all. But of course, uh Christianity always has a wonderful trend of turning shit on its ass for what it's not, um, uh, you know, so to speak. Uh and um even to this day, there's a a very uh uh strong hatred for Halloween, saying that is it is evil, um, and that um you know, even even churches that you know my family, you know, is is part of, they very much believe that as well. So this is very interesting. Um also the history with uh trick-or-treating um goes back to medieval times. Um there's something called mumming where there would be uh different uh it was called my M-U-M-M-I-NG is called mumming, they would go door to door and um singing carols to uh different residents in hopes for food and uh milk or something to drink. Um there's also something called All Souls Day that was to go door to door to give their respects to people who had relatives or loved ones that passed away, um hence the caroling as well. So it's very interesting. Halloween has different um uh combinations uh between medieval and um ancient um Irish traditions that were brought over to the US. Trigger treating didn't actually start until the 1950s, um, where there were a lot of the candy industry was manufacturing candy, wanted to distribute it out on that day. Uh prior to that, um it really wasn't big, so to speak, to give candy until about the 1940s and 50s. Um I love Halloween because it's it's it's one of the less stressful days, I would say. Um of course there's hypocrisy when it comes to the church, which there usually always are when it comes to um uh holidays, even with Christmas. Um, you know, a lot of a lot of anytime there's something that a lot of Christians deem as evil, uh, which Christmas was deemed as evil as well. Um but ironically that is something that is wildly practiced. Uh, but that was also something they saw as pagan and evil. Um so I you always see a common trend with uh I would say Christianity going around and and trying to knock down uh different uh cultures and saying what they practice is wrong and they deem it evil, and then they'll try to turn it in ways to benefit them, whether it is what that reminds me of capitalism. Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, I I watch um Robin Hood and it's very much uh you know, you're looking at the church and you're looking at how the church takes money from the poor and they exploit them for their for their well-being and not for the people. And a lot of that that is, you know, with a lot of these holidays, like, oh, that is pagan, that is wrong, um, but this is let me let me show you the way. And and and if if not, you will be killed. That that's kind of it's either our way or or there is no other way. Um, but um, I always I always loved Halloween uh more so because there it was more about that's the only one I don't hear about mass genocide associated um so to because it's already dead. True. Um, you know, and doing research, that's the only one where, you know, you don't hear um not saying that there that there probably isn't, because of course, you know, we all know history and how things just kind of pop out of out of nowhere when we when we learn, but that's the only one that I've researched over time that does not have mass genocides of people um in and making it so that it is glorified. And I think that's probably why a lot of people doesn't don't like Halloween, because they still see it as demon practices. But it's just really funny because when it comes to Christmas, Christmas was uh quote unquote a pagan holiday. And from and that also started in Europe. And I I don't remember if it was the Crusades or I'm not quite sure, but it was a Christian missionary, so to speak, and they went to um this uh European um European uh I think city or or or environment, and they basically they wanted to find a way to integrate Christianity into Christmas. And so they changed, they changed certain things like old like old technically they try to make it, they try to put their Christian views into the the pagan holiday to merge so that the the that particular group in Europe can assimilate to Christian. And it's it's just it's just very interesting how insidious it always is. People just mind their own fucking business and they just they're just enjoying their own shit, and they'll and then you always have Christians come in and be like, no, what you're doing is wrong. It is it's just very common throughout history, very, very common throughout history.
SPEAKER_01Now let me put my name on it and redo it. Right.
SPEAKER_12So so of three things. The first thing, that is always one of the things that is most difficult for to talk about is that the very explicit relationship between Christianity and capitalism, and how there are very uh pervasive and insidious practices that they share. Um, second thing, um we should absolutely bring mumming back. I would love to get a group together and just go sing the um Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack at people's doors on Halloween uh in exchange for candy. That sounds like something that we should all do. If anyone wants to be a part of that, you can email me at the blackmaccoy at gmail.com. Um and the third, why are you shaking your head at me? Anyway, um, and the third thing is uh, you know, I think it it's so interesting that um we talk about like pagan holidays um and just the you know the religious majority that we exist in as far as you know the United States is concerned. Um honestly it's a global majority, but um, but specifically with the United States, it's so interesting how so many pagan holidays that were once seen as these uh un-Christian like things have moved into being uh reappropriated or assimilated into this kind of you know modern mythos of uh celebration in some way, shape, or form. And this and Halloween being one of the one of the few, if not the only ones, um, at least to my knowledge, that um is still explicitly like this bad thing when when you visit other cultures, like the days of honoring spirits and honoring the dead is a very, very real thing. Um and how it not even just like honoring spirits and the dead, but honoring our relationship to them and the the kind of the the the more um the more historical debt that we owe to them for the things that they have provided for us and the the way in which they, you know, way in which we commune with them and the way they um look over us. Um it's weird that I'm saying is saying this in this way because I'm not spiritual religious at all. But but you know, uh, but just you know, describing in that way of having a relationship with the the uh a world of spiritualism in a very literal sense rather than not just being a spiritual person, but acknowledging, you know, in this very if you think of it in that kind of avatar less airbender sense or like less in a core sense, like there is a spiritual world that exists that we have to commune with, that we exist with, and uh having a relationship with it that is healthy and strong and respectful is really important. So yeah.
SPEAKER_13I agree with you 100%. And that you brought up um, you know, celebrating the dead. And um, it's very interesting how a Dia del Mortos, I know I messed that up, Dia del Model.
SPEAKER_11You said it right.
SPEAKER_13Okay, the day of the dead, it is to celebrate the ancestors or uh their loved ones that passed away, which happens to be on October 31st through November 2nd. And um it is to to really honor the loved ones that passed away, to give offerings so that they can, you know, find their way to their loved ones and in, I guess, our our plane, our plane. And that's also um when you know uh the mortal realm and the spiritual realm is the veil is thinnest, so that you know we could meet and see our loved ones again. And um, you know, it just kind of brings uh things in perspective that in general there are a lot of things culturally around the world that are very similar. Um, and a lot of people don't understand that with religion there are a lot of similarities, even though we can be on different continents on different sides of the world, there are a lot of things that a lot of people have the same idea about. And it's always a very few group of people that will always deem it as uh evil and then try to preach that around to other people and demonize it, even though these are practices that were going on that that is more about a love and coming together, but you're always gonna have opposition um for people who just don't agree and then will force that up their ideals on other people to change. Um, and uh again, it's it's just very interesting, you know, seeing these holidays and and and you know, and and how paganism is just so evil, but yet um there are certain practices that are Christians and and I'm saying this because my my the I'm a very I'm a spiritual person, but my baseline is Christianity, but I can talk about it because I I see the flaws and I know the flaws of that religion that I was brought up with. And I'm okay to call out you have to be able to call out those flaws. You have to be able to call out the bullshit and the hypocrisy if you if that's something that you've been brought up in, or if you're actually worldly enough to see what the hell is going on. And I have noticed that uh, especially with Christmas, I just really shake my head at it because you know they're so easy to demonize things that they call pagan, but the Christmas tree is not in the fucking Bible. So that is a thing that I just find very interesting. You know, you don't see snowmen, you don't see all these Christmas type of things that are considered holy. None of these things are in their quote unquote, you know, uh Bible teachings. Those are what people kind of you see, those. Are what are considered pagan. So the hypocrisy is all the shit that you call pagan, you guys are profiting off of it against going back to capitalism. And it's not for anybody but for the the money to be had in the power. It has nothing to do with religion, so to speak. And that's that's just it's things I just noticed. Um, you know, and and and it uh a lot of times uh people do not want to uh be inconvenienced uh thinking outside the box. They want to live in their ignorance and uh preach their ignorance to future generations to come. And this is why people don't want to change, even though they know it's wrong, they just don't care because that means if they care, that means they have to do something about it. And people always live in their ignorance. Yeah, they always live in their ignorance because that is what's comfortable for them. And that in general is just why people just don't change um and will not change because they they just don't want to, they they want to live in that denial, they want to live behind those rose rose-colored glasses and just continue on with their life.
SPEAKER_09Uh definitely have to uh agree with what you just said. Uh one, I was going to jump in with remember me, but I didn't want to make anybody cry. Um sorry. I know, sorry. Um, but then uh when you were talking specifically about Christmas, it's it's interesting. So a uh facility uh which uh myself and Lady Legacy used to uh uh frequent on um certain weekends. That's right.
SPEAKER_12Happen to make it give me that, give me that level of like uh public statements.
SPEAKER_09Yes, uh uh it happened to uh determine uh quite a few years ago. I I'll say maybe seven or so years ago, seven to ten years ago, it happened to determine that um some of the decisions it had made regarding its um holidays that it celebrated and it endorsed on multiple occasions was incorrect. And people did the research and it was like, oh, we need to change things up, we need to separate it. And there was a the the congregation was torn asunder. Uh many people left, uh, many people argued, many people um determined that this is just wrong. You can't do this to the children. What about the children? Um, there were a lot of different children. There were a lot of different disagreements. Um, and and the disagreement, because uh initially the the only lie, if you will, if I if I could use that word, was that you know, don't tell your children that Santa Claus exists, you know, tell them that the reason for the season is, you know, Jesus Christ. And once the uh knowledge and the research was done, uh and the knowledge was received, they then finally determined that, oh, wait a minute, this is you know, it's impossible that you know Jesus was born in this particular season. Oh, wait a minute, his name isn't even Jesus. That's not what his daddy called him. His name is Yeshua, and then and then it's found into, you know, wait a minute, why are we celebrating Christmas? It's a pagan holiday. Uh, can't do that. Oh my god, the tree is demonic. The tree is based off of a completely different pagan holiday where they bowed down to the reverence of uh three, uh the star with an upside-down triangle that represented a demon, and and and it was it was a mixture of a party where people came and they had sex with their relatives and intergender relationships and uh uh uh and and all different types of drank a lot and drank a lot and and then and participated in rituals and things of that nature. And when you and when you bow down in front of the upside down triangle with the star at the top, you're you're giving reverence to this demon that that that that that that preys upon the innocent and the children. What about the children?
SPEAKER_08Um and it was a very long weekend.
SPEAKER_09It really was. Uh and when when all of these things were were determined, um or or were understood or researched, uh, they were like, oh, you know, let's let's let's you know, let's about face, let's figure out what we need to do. And it's kind of what you were saying, you know, uh Sayone. It's you know, uh the when once the hypocrisy, once the the the thing that you say you stand on has been disproven, or when once you see that what you're doing is incorrect, you need to change it. You need to find a way to stand on what is actually correct. So I'm saying same thing I was saying about Thanksgiving and you know the rest of the holidays. Now, like I said about Thanksgiving, if you want to celebrate Thanksgiving for giving thanks about what's happened to you over the year, then make sure you acknowledge the fact that you do not stand on the Christopher Columbus ritual, the uh what happened to the Native Americans. Make sure you've acknowledged the fact that all of that shit is not why you're celebrating Thanksgiving. There shouldn't be uh uh uh centerpieces with Indian feathers, as you call them. Um, and then for Christmas, if you celebrate Christmas again as a gathering of your family to you know just spread love and cheer and happiness, and you just want to give gifts, maybe call it something else. I don't know. But you have to acknowledge the fact that what that holiday stands on uh currently in the US is capitalism. Let's just call it the break and break. That's what that's what it stands on.
SPEAKER_04Well, you just be honest and say, fuck all that. I want gifts. Exactly. There's nothing wrong with being greedy, nothing wrong with being being greedy, just be real about it.
SPEAKER_08Just be real giving, I want food. I want gifts.
SPEAKER_12Like that's what I don't want to be able to stop cooking, and damn it. I this is the one time of year I get something. Maybe nothing.
SPEAKER_13Go ahead. No, no, please go ahead. Because I I had a thought that you're you're spot on about. Please continue.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, there's there's nothing wrong with being greedy about it. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that you you just want to be spoiled on that day. You want your man, your your your siblings, your parents, your children, your friends, your your woman, your significant other, whoever it is. You just want somebody to give you something, whether it's food on Thanksgiving, whether it's a gift on Christmas, whether it's uh uh uh uh uh the Wakanda uh uh uh chest uh representation of Martin Luther King's birthday, whatever it is, you want somebody to acknowledge you on the Luther King.
SPEAKER_12You should not have made you should not have said that.
SPEAKER_04I said it's all the Luther King.
SPEAKER_09There you go. Um, so it just depends on what you want. It just depends on what you want. And if you want to be greedy, be greedy, but acknowledge the fact that the reasons why these things are created are not the reasons why you're celebrating them, they're not the reasons why you're doing what you're doing. So you want to make sure, and nobody's saying tiptoe around relatives or tiptoe around the subject. Say what it is, mean what you say, and then do what you want to do. If somebody comes over and says, Why do you have that? Uh uh uh why are you celebrating this holiday? Why are you my business? I'm cooking for my family. My children want gifts. Oh, but but don't but don't you know it's a pagan holiday? What's a pagan holiday? Christmas. I I didn't say I was celebrating Christmas. I I invited you over to eat dinner and pass gifts to friends and family. Call it Friendsgiving. Speaking of Friendsgiving, Blurred Spectrum's having a Friendsgiving in December. Check in. But uh Sayune, you had a uh your stream.
SPEAKER_13Oh, but that that's uh, you know, um Christmas and Easter is is another one um where uh you know they take quote unquote uh from what I've heard, I have to do more research about um Easter when it comes to like the Easter bunny and uh painting eggs, but I I I do know it has nothing to do with the quote unquote Bible. Uh fucking get that.
SPEAKER_03Bunnies don't rap what the fuck's I gotta do with eggs. I don't know what the hell has to do with ducks. I don't get it. It just makes sense. We've got grown men in bunny costumes looking like jackasses hopping around with the butt with a fucking basket with eggs. What are you doing? Well, like I think that's what I'm saying. Trying to pin rabbits and ducks together. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I always thought Easter was more of a furries holiday anyway. I'm gonna be real with you.
SPEAKER_09He said he used to think that things are different.
SPEAKER_04He had a little legged, with wicked legs like that. I'm like, nah, I think that is we can protect the food.
SPEAKER_02That's the weird shit that's weird with skin. Like it's weird.
SPEAKER_03This shit is stupid.
SPEAKER_12Like it's stupid that it says it's like why we got weird clinical monsters, and tentacle monsters are just marginally included. I'm surprised y'all include them. That's when you get into monster fuckers with lots of different boxes. Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so real quick.
SPEAKER_09I uh, you know, of course, we we do our research, uh, or we at least try to in the middle of a podcast. So I looked up a couple things uh to to go back to the Easter bunny. So it says, uh, of course, the Easter bunny is clouded in mystery. Uh, but one theory uh right, but one theory is that the symbol of the rabbit stems from the pagan holida tradition, specifically the festival or Eostray. Excuse me if I said that wrong. Uh, a goddess of fertility whose animal symbol was a bunny. And because rabbits are known for their energetic breeding, uh they have traditionally symbolized fertility. Uh, eggs also representing new life.
SPEAKER_02And Easter, pretty much.
SPEAKER_09Hold on, let me finish.
SPEAKER_04In the 13th century, you're feeding my you're feeding my theory about the verse. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_09In the 13th century, churches had their congregations abstain from eggs during Lent, allowing them to be consumed again on Easter. Uh, and according to history.com, 19th century Russian high society started exchanging ornate ornately decorated eggs, even jewel-encrusted eggs, on Easter. So, uh, one of the theories is that it's based off of Lent, they weren't allowed to eat eggs before Easter, but then on Easter you can eat them. So, what they did was they made them colorful and pretty and said, Hey, you can eat this now. It looks pretty. Take a bite.
SPEAKER_03Now it's poison dye. Okay, wait, is this poison stuff?
SPEAKER_04Just gonna use not toxic crayola, just gonna use not toxic rayola as well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, nah, because it's fucking egg, it's stupid.
SPEAKER_01No, and then they said so. Everybody should go bless themselves and go watch the the uh it's it's the part I think it's uh I don't remember it's in season one or season two. I'll I'll I'll go look it up, but it's a part, it's a it's a it's a part in American gods.
SPEAKER_10Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER_01Where uh where I I but I believe the I believe the the goddess is that fertility goddess you referred to, that you go straight.
SPEAKER_05Yes, she's the I'm a good people.
SPEAKER_01And and you know, and she was uh you know, in American gods, the how how how powerful the gods were was related to how much how much uh how popular they still were and how many people still worship them. So it was so it was super interesting because she was like she was flourishing, she was popular, and and like you know, and people was asking her, like, well, no one even knows who you are. And and she was like, Oh, but oh, but they're but they're here for me though, because this is mine, this has always been mine. They don't know they're celebrating me, but they are and and it was it was funny because there was there was like 50 different Jesuses there, yeah. So like for every different distinct belief and what Jesus was, there was a different version of Jesus that's there at this at this Easter celebration. It was it's it's so it's so amazingly like just put together, and she is delightful and just it's it's beautiful, yeah. Ridiculousness, yeah.
SPEAKER_03The rabbit thing is so down to me.
SPEAKER_09Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't get to the rabbit part, but go ahead, Janae. Say anything.
SPEAKER_13No, her name was Astara, that was another name um in American Gods, and it's funny, um, because like like like uh Kaize said, no one really paid it any any mind, so to speak, because they weren't she was like the quote unquote pagan goddess, I believe, of fertility and rebirth and the dawn. And so it wasn't to the end, they were like, you know, the more people pray to you is how your power grows, and no one was really praying to her. So, but that is what I'm saying as our Christians will pick and choose their pagan beliefs and integrate it to make it easier for people who believed in, you know, uh so on so those pagan practice to to kind of infiltrate their Christian ideals into them. And that they just uh always insidiously do that, you know, to to to make the masses bigger for their cause, um, and to say fuck what they think, but we're gonna make it easy for you, an easier pill for y'all to swallow, take this shit, you know. Um, so it's it's it is very interesting. Um, but that's why I hate Christmas. Um, I I I I hate it because of the the consumerism and capitalism of it, and and too many people get too wrapped up into what I want. And it's like it's the hypocrisy is just too much for me. And as I get older, it's just too much for me to deal with.
SPEAKER_03Um so I really still have your stream. I thought I was on mute. My bad, go ahead.
SPEAKER_13Um, but yeah, that that's that's why I I really have a disdain for Christmas, so to speak. Um, it's it's as children, people you know, we just see it as gift day. So again, give gifts, make it gift day. Um, but please I I I just don't like the the constant hypocrisy of Christianity but gifts and and Santa Claus and reindeers. I'm like, no, pick your fucking fight.
SPEAKER_09Do not keep it, keep it, keep it on one.
SPEAKER_13Pick a struggle, pick a struggle, struggle. But I'm sorry, that's that's my my spul about Christmas and why I don't like it and and why I prefer Halloween because I don't, it's just the the the ideology is just very different for me. And uh, you know, I don't see as much hypocrisy with Halloween. It is what it is, um, so to speak. The origins were were different. It was more so for um, you know, trying to to help the you help utilize the spirits and and and uh maybe get a um uh a thought process on what the future has to them for the land, if they're gonna be in famine, so to speak, and then you know, wearing the costumes to to uh aid themselves from being harmed from evil spirits to come, um, and also leaving out um food for them, so to speak, so that they don't get fucked with. Um, but I I I like I like the idea of Halloween and just interestingly how it was not even from the US, um, of course, it was from Ireland, and just just how there's different traditions that were brought into one, but it's always a demonization, uh, always with Christianity and different holidays, but picking and choosing of pagan pagan ideologies for their own religion. That I've always had a very big issue with that.
SPEAKER_12Do y'all want to have a Krampus Christmas party?
SPEAKER_10So funny, but they're serious.
SPEAKER_13Who's gonna get cold?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'd I'll I'll go.
SPEAKER_13Krampus, don't don't he be snatching people who do that. I don't want that. Um, I don't know what you consider doing wrong. So right.
SPEAKER_09Uh, real quick, real quick before we continue the Krampus conversation, I wanted to make sure I talked because you know, uh Lady Legacy asked about the egg, uh the rabbit.
SPEAKER_03So what the rabbit didn't ask about it, I just think it's stupid.
SPEAKER_09Same thing. So uh they said the uh the the some sources say that the uh Easter bunny actually came from Germany uh in the 1700s. Uh he settled in Pennsylvania, and uh trans what what the tradition is is that he transported uh uh uh eggs. He was called the uh Oster Hays, I believe it is. Uh, and what happened in the tradition is that children would make nests in which the creature could lay its colored eggs. The rabbit lays eggs. Um, and eventually the custom spread throughout the US and that the fabled rabbits' uh Easter morning deliveries expanded from regular eggs to chocolate and other types of candy and gifts, while decorating the baskets replaced the nests. And additionally, children often left out carrots for the bunny in case he got hungry from all of the hopping that he did across the country.
SPEAKER_04Why do we keep celebrating anything that involves Pennsylvania? That's a great question because Grandhog's Day also comes from Pennsylvania. It did start in Pennsylvania, right?
SPEAKER_03So, like yours and all that jump, and that's really what I think first colonies and whatever. Not the rudeness independence day. Honestly, I think going back to what today was talking about with like the whole Christianity and then Halloween, everything, because you know, me and um you know Suchi went to a facility every once in a while, and we had so what do you think a cult compound? That's what it's a cult.
SPEAKER_04Is it the same facility I think it is? Some of the way they add it was like a cult. I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_13I mean, just the way how you claim you claimed it as neither it's neither here nor there, but it's showing it sounds like it's way over there.
SPEAKER_04You didn't like relief my I got showed them with that facility a while back.
SPEAKER_03Trust me, that's no, but when we did it, it was just every year. What is it? Hallelujah night, you know, yes, have that thing because you did Halloween night instead of Halloween. It was more branding Christianity every year, you don't you don't go, you don't go to people's houses, they will have Hallelujah night, they will have the you know, the the games and such, and then they gave what were the games?
SPEAKER_11I don't want to know you don't want to I do we all playing Jumanji or some shit? I need to know Jumanji, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_09No, no, we would dress up as biblical characters, yeah. Uh and Jacob, would you dress as Jacob? I did actually every year, yes.
SPEAKER_12I love it so on the nose, yeah.
SPEAKER_09And uh we would play like um barnyard hopscotch.
SPEAKER_12What is barnyard hopscotch?
SPEAKER_09It wasn't hay, it was small barnyard animals, yeah.
SPEAKER_12And then we did like tags or just trying to get it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm still stuck. How are you playing barnyard hops hops harp hopscotch with with barnyard animals?
SPEAKER_09Oh, I'm sorry, they were toys, they were toys barnyard animals. Were you hopping over the toys? They put like little squares of stuff on the ground, yeah, and then you like throw a little lamb toy, and then you would hopscotch to the yeah, yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_03So this so it was interesting because it was like you they just tried to entertain us so we wouldn't feel bad about not going out with all of us. It shows yeah, so it was just like I didn't honestly I didn't start you know doing the whole Halloween thing until later in my adulthood until she was an adult, yeah.
SPEAKER_09I didn't I actually didn't do anything close to trick-or-treating and actually, I didn't even go trick, I've never gone trick-or-treating, except for what's going on. I've never gone trick-or-treating children.
SPEAKER_03Wow, yeah, until we had to take children out. It was like never gone trick-or-treating ever.
SPEAKER_09I didn't think the closest I came to was when that one night I ran outside while people were trick-or-treating. Yeah, and I was like, Oh my gosh, they're trick-or-treating. And then I went back inside the house.
SPEAKER_03Pretty much, yeah.
SPEAKER_08And then we did we did give out candy a couple years like that one girl she came to the door and her little sister was there, and she's like, Hi, and she's like, It's trick-or-treat, not hot. Oh, it's candy. It's trick or treat, not hot. Oh, catch a trick.
SPEAKER_04What we're rolling up to like that. Well, I always be more in the story that y'all still gave that child candy instead of giving it.
SPEAKER_09I didn't want the spy.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no. She wasn't talking about it. Yeah, she was talking about the chicken. You wouldn't get that as a snap well or a chocolate ball from this house, maybe otherwise. No man. No.
SPEAKER_13I did meant to tell y'all that um when the when Halloween was brought over here and the start of the colonies, it wasn't really reserved for the northern part um of the colonies. It was actually started in Maryland, like it was more common in Maryland, which I thought was very and that's where the Blair Witch came from.
SPEAKER_10See?
SPEAKER_13Oh God.
SPEAKER_12That's why she had a bunch of white people just standing around looking stupid.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. See? It's all in this together. It's all coming together.
SPEAKER_13But I mean, it's interesting because Halloween is huge here. I didn't know, but I noticed that it it's not so Halloween apparently. When it was introduced, it was not big or highly celebrated anywhere else in the US as much as it was near the southern colonies or close to the southern colonies. And Maryland is literally above the quote unquote Mason Dixon line. So we are one of the first of these southern colonies. Um so I did find that very interesting that it wasn't really practiced up north, like close to Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER_05Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_13So um it's just very interesting to kind of, you know, things that we we see and we're like, oh hey, you know, because I I noticed that Halloween is always very much like celebrated here, but that's just my ignorance because I'm assuming that everywhere else celebrates it here and it wasn't like that. So it's just interesting.
SPEAKER_09All right. So we have covered a lot of holidays. Others are, of course, other ones that we haven't even touched, like a St. Patrick's Day or Saint Valentine's Day. Uh, also, we we've learned during our research of these uh holidays is that any holiday that starts with a saint something normally commemorates the death of that person. So uh Carnage. Carnage, yeah, pretty much. I believe what St. Valentine I commemorated the death of a saint or a priest who uh married people secretly when the church didn't want him to, they put him to death. Um, and then Saint Patrick's uh day commemorates the death of what was that? Um oh it was a teenager who was from Britain, who was kidnapped and Britain, yes, born in Britain, kidnapped and taken as a slave to uh uh uh to Ireland. And um eventually he just you know became an adult who was trying to bring Christianity to the island of Ireland. Um, and uh then eventually he died, and they, you know, St. Patrick's Day is the commemoration. He became the island's saint, uh, and uh they celebrate his his uh his death on uh that on that day.
SPEAKER_11He wasn't even Irish, wasn't he?
SPEAKER_09He was not, he was British.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, he was he was brought over as a slave.
SPEAKER_09Yep. Oh, and then another honorable mention, of course, is Passover, which most of us didn't know about until what the Prince of Egypt, who explained the entire story to us because most of us wouldn't know. Because we're all like, oh, it's when people eat a bunch of food, but no, it's when you know the the first first, yes, the first of every uh family, firstborn, sorry, firstborn child of every family was uh uh uh was being killed uh due to the one of the plagues. And uh, if you you know put the blood of a lamb on your door frame, uh the uh Holy Ghost would pass over the house in which it saw the markings, uh, and therefore the child would be spared. And if you didn't do it, uh you would get operation.
SPEAKER_08Yes.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_08Operation, don't touch the sides, those are fingers.
SPEAKER_09So, yes, uh, those are some of our honorable mentions. Anybody else have an honorable mention before we move on? Juneteenth. Oh, fancy one. Uh Juneteenth. Uh, what was Juneteenth again? Uh that that that that was that was a recent one. Didn't that just become a holiday?
SPEAKER_13Uh something years ago, I believe. It was uh national holidays.
SPEAKER_12What'd you say? I said, isn't that when we honor Uncle Ruckus for all of his sacrifices to oh my god new niggas and my nostrils make oh god if y'all thought we were gonna get black representation of it? So with um yo, I'm sorry if I did our podcast game closer. I can help myself. Go ahead, Taina.
SPEAKER_13Uh Juneteenth, Texas was the last state that still had slaves. And so um basically I think 1776, I think that was what when uh the US was independent from France. Um and so that's where they celebrated the white folks celebrated their independence, so to speak, uh for July. Uh but that does not mean that everybody was free because they were still slaves until I forgot the year 1865. 1865, what over 100 years? Almost 100 years? Just a whole yeah, Texas was the last state that had uh slaves. Um they weren't emancipated until then. And so June, I believe 18th or 19th is considered June 1 June 19th is considered uh Juneteenth, where um all of these technically uh the emancipation of all slaves, uh, because slaves didn't even know for almost 100 years that uh technically everybody else was was free except them.
SPEAKER_09Yep. Which is interesting because of course Abraham Lincoln, of course, did the emancipation proclamation in 19, sorry, 1863 in January. Uh, but of course, Texas was just holding on to those uh whips and chains until 1863. Uh and that is uh that is when Juneteenth uh was was put into uh was set. Uh but of course it wasn't until this year where um our current president Joe Biden uh set uh uh Juneteenth to be a national holiday. Oh, federal holiday to be specific, where we can actually get off of work. Look at that.
SPEAKER_13Anyway, same as uh Martin Luther King Day as well, I believe. I still I think it just started to become a uh federal holiday um not too long ago. So I remember I was working and um it was it's up if they left it up to the companies if they wanted to uh let let their uh employees uh be off. It wasn't even considered a federal holiday, it was just a day of of uh you know to be review reviewed or or to you know I guess to be observed, so to speak. Um, but it I don't I don't I think it just became at least for Johns Hopkins, it just became a federal holiday this year.
SPEAKER_09So I mean it was yeah, you're right. It was first observed on January 20th, 1986. Uh so you know, look at that. That you know, it it it has not been a federal, it's still not a federal holiday for a lot of uh buildings and industries, uh, but for most of them, it took, you know, well over the lifespan of pretty much almost all of us. Uh no, a couple of us, you know, were alive by a year or two. Uh, but it took you know well over 30 years, oh almost 30 years to uh finally get that in place. So yay. Any other holidays, honorable mentions, people?
SPEAKER_13Oh, Kwanzaa. I'm surprised you didn't say Kwanzaa.
SPEAKER_09Uh do we want to talk about the history of Kwanzaa?
SPEAKER_12We can talk about Chris Mahana Kwanzaika.
SPEAKER_09Oh no, Chris Mahana Kwanzaika. We are not doing that. See, you're you're really trying to get us revoked, aren't you? I'm fucking doing it. That's why I avoid Kwanzaa.
SPEAKER_13I think that's a whole entire uh uh podcast for its own, actually.
SPEAKER_09Um it is we'll we'll do that next year. We'll do that around.
SPEAKER_12We will do a Kwanzaa episode next year.
SPEAKER_13I would love that. That'd be great, actually.
SPEAKER_09Yes, let's let's let's actually do like a whole Kwanzaa series.
SPEAKER_13Oh, yes, and different principles, yes, references.
SPEAKER_09Stay tuned for that, people 2022.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we can watch the Proud Family too, because they mentioned it.
SPEAKER_09Okay, that's true. But oh wait, what was the name of that Disney movie? Uh, with the with the with the girl from South Africa and there it is. We'll we'll even watch that. We'll give you a review. We should do a color.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yes, let's do a color friend episode.
SPEAKER_09No, no, doesn't that represent Kwanzaa? Right? The spirit of togetherness, all right. So, if there aren't any other holidays, we'll go ahead and wrap up this episode. Like I said before, the last blurred spectrum episode of 2021. I hope you all enjoyed uh this year of uh fun and friendship and frolic. Uh, the uh uh melanated solstice was amazing. We had so many different uh uh uh um black businesses and creators and artists on. Uh, we we've done so much, Jesus Christ, we've done so many things this year to really think about.
SPEAKER_06This is our first con.
SPEAKER_09Uh yeah, finally, as a as a as a whole unit, the spectrum was at Blurred Con. Uh, you we we we somehow made it through the insurgence, uh uh uh the insurrection at the top of the year. Uh, we went through the end of Trump, the starting of Biden. Um, although this was last year, we we you know we celebrated. I'm not gonna go there anyway. We went over a lot of things. Uh, we celebrated a lot of Marvel movies and different reviews. So we are really, really excited about what's coming next year. Businesses spawned from the podcast. We did. I was gonna go over that next, but if you want to talk about it now, no, you do it. Okay, so as we're moving on to 2022, there are a lot of different things that we have coming up on the horizon. Uh, new animes, new games, uh, conventions are coming back. You may see us at a couple more of them. Uh, we will be doing a couple of new uh uh uh surprises, uh raffles, uh uh giveaways, uh, because we love our listeners and uh we love the fact that you listen to the things that we do. Uh so stay tuned. Please follow, like, and subscribe uh because you will be able to see and be the first ones abreast of all the things that we plan on doing in 2022. Uh, so of course, as always, I want to give us a round uh uh of applause to each and every one of our panelists, our guest panelists, our visitors, all those who have been on our podcast this entire year, 2021. Oh, I almost messed that up. Um, and I want to thank you all for once again giving us an entire year. Well, actually, it's the first entire year we've ever had uh of of things for our listeners.
SPEAKER_12And we did start this podcast during the Pandora.
SPEAKER_09We did. Yes, yep. The pan the Pandora's box was uh yeah, it was opened and uh we we were the hope at the bottom of it.
SPEAKER_12And people have gained been doing this for a year, it feels like so much.
SPEAKER_09No, it's been a year and a half. Uh actually, it's been a it's it's been a year and two quarters, two, three quarters, three quarters.
SPEAKER_12Okay, so it's been over a year because we started in the summer.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it was summer of last year, June. Okay, yes, May or June. Something like that. Anyway, so yes, thank you all for listening. Thank you all for following. Thank you all for subscribing. Thank you all for you know uh staying with us and being ready for what's coming next from each and every one of us. People got stuff going on, and I guarantee you, if you listen and you pay attention, you will benefit and reap the rewards. Uh, so I'm gonna go ahead and give each of our panelists an opportunity to not only uh say where they can be reached and spoken to, but also tell a little bit about what they will be doing as we move into 2022. It can be a little bit or it can be a lot of it, it could be nothing at all, or it could be everything. Uh depends on how much you want to share. Plus, we don't have much time, so um kind of make it as uh minute as possible. Who wants to go first? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone and nominee Sione. Oh my gosh. Sione cosplay! What how can they reach you? How can they talk to you? What's going on next for you?
SPEAKER_13Hello, my lovies. This is Sione. You can reach me on IG at Sione underscore cosplay, Facebook, Sione Cosplay. You can reach to me on my email, which is cyone.cosplays at gmail.com. And I have a couple projects that I am uh opening up. Uh going it's going to start probably December and going into next year, and that is creating original characters from the ideas of my followers. Uh, so I'm I'm involving a collaboration with my followers, seeing what they would like me to wear, what they would like me to create, and bringing their visions to life. Also, we have a lot of so if you would like also my lovely listeners or our lovely listeners would like to be a part of that collaboration, send me your ideas to my email at Chine. So for goodness, give me my government name, Syone.com. And also, we have some some wonderful merchandise that we have uh uh collabed with the amazing Blurred Creations uh that has the you know, I'm I'm honored and privileged to be a part of. And we have a wonderful uh you know t-shirt and and and wonderful uh cosplay and anime gear uh collaborations with them as well. That's going to be dropping now and also hopefully more to come next year. So I'm very blessed to see what 2022 has in store for for me and for everybody else.
SPEAKER_09Moving on to the doctor, how can you be reached? What do you got going on? What do you want people to know about you?
SPEAKER_00All right, so you can reach me at Facebook at Rod RT. And as far as what I've got going on, um, for 2022, I'm definitely gonna be doing a lot more traveling than I have, you know. Part of the benefits of you know, vaccination and some things being more open, like I want to take full advantage of that. And I want to do more to really get connected with the community because I feel like that's something that I've lost a lot of, you know, especially through the pandemic. And then even I just really haven't gotten back into it the way that I've wanted to. So that's what I want to be really intentional about next, you know, especially the next coming year.
SPEAKER_09I believe we have a couple of projects we can definitely cycle the doctor into to help him with his outreach if you're willing to do participate. Of course, sounds like a plan. Awesome sauce.
SPEAKER_07Lady Legacy, how can you be reached? What do you got going on? What are you doing in the near future?
SPEAKER_03Well, uh, you reached me at uh was it amazing graceline underscore on Instagram? Uh all the niggas trying to do is graduate uh school. And uh the next year coming up, trying to keep my sanity. Ongoing battles. That's about it.
SPEAKER_12Because niggas be tap dancing on that last nerve. Tap dancing, river dancing, okay, like a football and alien dance troop, bitch. Just all that shit.
SPEAKER_03But uh I think uh then next year try to get into more painting and stuff. It's been pretty good for my psyche, and uh yeah. I don't know if some people have seen my my things, but yeah, I think it's going pretty well. So uh yeah. Oh, I gotta show you guys my thing at Tupac that I did for yeah, she just did a phenomenal free hand of Tupac.
SPEAKER_09Like it borrow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'll put it in the chat for her to think heart heals live.
SPEAKER_09All right, Kazay Shinryu. How can you be reached? Where can people find you? What you got going on? What's next?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, uh you can reach me on uh the gram at uh bear3b. Uh as far as what's next, that's a wonderful fucking question. Uh so uh if uh any if anyone's hiring, let a nigga know. Uh and yeah, we'll see from there.
SPEAKER_09Shampoo bracelets. Uh, this I believe is for both Shammy B as well as for Dr. Quinzel. How can you be reached? How can you be found? What you got going on?
SPEAKER_04I guess I'll be doing this with both of us, but uh, we're gonna start off with I ain't really got shit going on, so I'm just gonna really speak on uh Dr. Quinzel shit. Um blurfaces.com. Uh check that out. There's all types of merchandise from Bluetooth speakers to shirts to sweatshirts, anything anime and you know, cosplay related. She's you know, as uh the great CNA has mentioned, she's on a couple shirts as well. Um, wonderful merchandise, left and right. Just uh go check that website out. You can also catch uh Dr. Penzel on Blur Creations on Instagram as well. Um myself, I uh I'm not gonna put myself out there really for the for the year of 2020, 22. I plan on being more of a recluse. I've actually been playing with the stock market and I'm trying to get to a point where I never have to leave my house ever again. So I'm talking about so um actually you know playing around with that and trying to get more, trying to learn more and gain more tips on the stock market. So by the end of 2022, I will be just in my house and making large amounts of money from my computer. Um and then just you know, outside of that, going back to uh working out again. That's about it, and trying to get better health.
SPEAKER_03You legal health, yes.
SPEAKER_01Um accountable health, accountable health.
SPEAKER_02I'm working on my drawing. I'm working on my drone, just trying to find a clean and kind of style my life. That's that's what I'm trying to do. And then in 2022, I I may with the help of Sale May and the black will call it have uh my first cosplay design.
SPEAKER_12Oh, so what you call my name for? Yes, absolutely. That's what I that's what I said what you call my name for. Like you know what I'm saying with.
SPEAKER_02But you're gonna be helping me with that class.
SPEAKER_05I need assistance.
SPEAKER_12I was like, what did I say I was gonna do?
SPEAKER_09Hold on. All right, all right, all right, circle back, circle back, circle back.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, but um, for any for any tips on stocks that people listen to, if you're you know in the stock market and have any tips that I can and bitcoin, by all means, please uh hit up on Shammy B87 on Twitter or hit me at shampoo bracelets on Instagram, and of course, you can catch me on Discord and any of your games under many, many a name, mostly coke biceps, whatever. Whatever y'all catch me at the time, hit up shampoo bracelets or chambi v87, and you have a good chance to get mad. But um, yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_09The black mcoy, where can you be found? How can they reach you? How can they reach out to you? What do you got going on as we enter 2022?
SPEAKER_12Well, you can usually find me at the spirit portal in Republic City. Um, no, so you can but um you can find me at the black McCoy on Instagram and the Black McCoy Cosplay on Facebook. You can also find me at Not Black by Choice on Instagram. Uh that's a great segue to what we're doing next year, which is really getting that um company off of the ground. Um, I have a great, awesome, amazing line of new apparel lined up for all of my black and ground biplus and gender non-conforming and gender diverse populace out in these streets. So please be prepared. I have so much ready for you all, and you're going to absolutely love it because it's bomb as shit. You've never seen nothing like this before, and it's okay. Um, also, I have a lot of different cosplay projects that I'm have queued up that I'm still working on for next year, taking my time because you know I do it for me and not for y'all. Um, and uh also I I almost forgot because I was reminded when Sione said it that we she and I have a uh collab coming up sometime next year. We haven't actually set a date for it, but um yeah.
SPEAKER_09Wait, wait, wait, you trying to tell me that we're about to have uh uh uh uh uh uh Sayone McCoy, uh the uh the the the black cosplate, where like we're you're about to like combine your efforts into this like Voltron-esque amalgamation of amazingness.
SPEAKER_05What Voltron?
SPEAKER_13I'm not on Voltron. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Anything more about Voltron now? Come on.
SPEAKER_12I know, right? I'm better than Voltron. We're better than Voltron. We're a bio merge digivolution. What do you mean? Wow, is that what we're doing? Oh shit.
SPEAKER_09I won't hurt you. I'm very I'm very gentle.
SPEAKER_13Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_09Uh all right, uh oh, right, so yes, Suchi no Shogun. Uh as I said uh last week, I'm finally on the gram as myself. So Succi No Shogun on Instagram, um, as well as uh Umbrust Arcade, of course, uh on pretty much almost every platform Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Twitch, YouTube. Um, and then of course Blur Creations. Um working with uh Dr. Quinzel on the uh amazingness that is going on over there. So Blur Creations, as we said before, on Instagram, it's also on Twitter as well as Facebook. Um, and then of course, I am also uh working on uh a couple of new projects myself, uh uh along with Blur Creations as well as Zumbrose Arcade. We'll be doing a couple of things where we are bringing the uh uh uh the fun and the entertainment to you. Uh so if you like uh all things indoor fun or outdoor fun, electronics or uh uh different styles of uh not necessarily fitness, it's more so like um uh air, air, airsoft, uh, airsoft equipment. Uh I'll just say that without giving it away. Uh be prepared for that. Um, both uh Unrust Arcade and Blur Creations are a part of the uh Royal Crown raffle going on in December, actually. Uh Blur Creations is giving away its first Blur Tings uh box uh during the Royal Crown uh raffle. So if you want to I'm proud of you if you want to get a chance to win that box, you can uh definitely uh uh participate in that raffle. Uh just go to uh www.teroyalcrowns.org. Uh and that uh they'll let you donate and all proceeds, all proceeds, one more time, all proceeds go to St. Jude's uh hospital. So definitely check that out. The uh raffle is on December 9th, and you have uh up until the day and time of the raffle to donate. And every, I think it's every $10 is a ticket or entry into the raffle. Raffle. And then, of course, as uh Sayune was saying before, uh Blur Creations is doing a co uh cross tag uh uh uh a combination line with her. Uh we already have a couple of items out, but we're going to do a couple more, uh, as well as the uh contest that we're gonna be doing with her uh coming up in December. Please be excited about that because it's gonna be a one-of-a-kind never seen before. Only how many are we making? Is it just one or how is it just one? Is it just one, Dr.
SPEAKER_02For the contest? Yes, we're doing one.
SPEAKER_09So it's only gonna be one of these. Never ever made again, never gonna be done again. One of these. I love the like you gotta pick a number. So it's gonna be two, two of the content.
SPEAKER_02One of them is for Sale Nay and then one of them is for the actual.
SPEAKER_09So you're going to get a signed Sion, one of a kind, never to be seen again, because the only other person's gonna have it is her. Uh, I'm not gonna tell you what it is because again, it's one of a kind, it's gonna be a surprise. So participate in the uh in the uh contest. It was like I said, it would take place in December. Uh follow her on Instagram or Twitter, Facebook, Facebook, Instagram or Facebook, uh Sayone underscore cosplay or Sayone Cosplay, or follow Blur Creations on Instagram and uh Facebook uh to get any info on the quit uh on the contest. Uh as you know, she explained last week. There's you know a couple of hints uh that she'll be giving out as we get closer and closer to the date. Uh just be prepared for it, it's gonna be amazing. Uh, it's like indoor plumbing, it's gonna be big. Uh so uh I think that's all of it. Uh I feel I feel like I'm missing something. Uh oh, oh right. So conventions. We are going to be at conventions next year. So look out, follow us so you can know which way place you can meet your favorite panelists. Uh, we will have giveaways then and contests then. Uh, we plan on giving out some really interesting prizes. Now that you know that each and every one of your panelists has something going on, each and every one of us are going to be giving out things that you may want.
SPEAKER_12So be prepared. All right. He said, What? I said one of them might be your soul. Anyway, no, I had one more thing I wanted to add. One more thing. Um, I'm proud of everyone here. We got we got to the end of 2021, or we we made it this far, and uh, we've all accomplished some really awesome stuff. And so I just want to tell everyone I'm proud of, I'm proud of everyone, proud of all of y'all.
SPEAKER_05Oh, proud of you as well.
SPEAKER_00We're proud of you too.
SPEAKER_13And thank you again for this opportunity for us to be able to come together during uh you know this pandemic and really be close. You know, we we've become a family, and um, I really appreciate that. You don't really see uh often um you know a joining of minds and emotions and talent together, and and it's it's been very, very beautiful and insightful. And to have other people walk this journey with us. So it's it's been it's been everything.
SPEAKER_01And I'll bring it together for the for the lack of drama. Right?
SPEAKER_09Because you know, they always be saying put a bunch of black people in the same room with the same area, it's gonna be a bunch of drama and shit. I can I can honestly say behind the scenes or on the camera or on the on the tape, we've had zero drama this entire time. I think the most drama we had is saying whether or not we're gonna record on the same day, which we all agreed we are, so yeah.
SPEAKER_13Absolutely, and the camaraderie and the respect. Um you know family, the family, and how we can the support, the support, and we we all have sometimes very different views on things and how we can listen and respect um the views and um and viewpoints of others and and really listen. And that's what I really appreciate. That's something that we usually don't get in in life in general at all. So um, and that's something that our listeners are are with us because they they see that that uh that community, the the villa that we that we have have have brought together.
SPEAKER_09Oh, snap. I almost forgot. Lastly, that's actually a great point to end off on. Because we love our listeners so much, and because we uh appreciate you all listening from the get-go up until now, or maybe you just started last week because I I saw that person. I'm not gonna say who it is because I don't know, but I know that person listened to our almost our entire podcast uh last month, like the entire podcast, like all year and almost two years, like amazingly. So we see y'all and we appreciate what you're doing. So, of course, Blurred Spectrum. Uh uh, you can reach Blurred Spectrum on Instagram. Uh, I'm sorry, Instagram, Blurred Spectrum, Facebook, Blurred Spectrum, Twitter, the Blurred Spectrum, or hit us up on the blur, uh sorry, Blurred Spectrum at Armbrust Arcade Mailbag. Um, we have a special uh uh blur creations, uh uh blurred spectrum line coming out, specifically a representation of each of our panelists. So if you like one other than uh more than the others, uh feel free to buy, you know, that individual some uh awares, you know, the moderator. Uh and you will you you will you will see uh uh some amazing things coming up really, really soon. So again, as we always end out our episodes. Sayonara.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Love y'all, love wow, yeah. I see you in 2022.
SPEAKER_12You're here, oh my god, no.